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How Do We Know The Bible Is Accurate?


We know this several ways. First, we must consider the time gap = between=20 Christ's death, burial, and resurrection and the writing of the = New=20 Testament. Most scholars date the Gospel books (Matthew, Mark, = Luke, and=20 John) around 50-70 AD. Jesus died between 30 and 33 AD. This = leaves a time=20 gap of only 20- 40 years from the death of Christ to the first = written=20 books about His life.=20

This is important because it means that it was within the = generation of=20 those who had seen Him on earth, and that means that they could = have=20 verified or contradicted the stories about Christ since they would = have=20 known whether it had happened or not. In addition, since there = were living=20 witnesses at the time that the Gospels were put together, there = was not=20 enough time for legendary passages to appear in the text.=20

Next, we must examine the letters of Paul, which are almost = universally=20 accepted as having been written before the Gospels were. Paul was=20 converted a mere two years after Christ's death, according to most = scholars--this puts him writing letters as early as 32-35 AD Most = scholars=20 say the latest he started writing was in the 40s or 50s.=20

In addition, 1 Corinthians 15 quotes one of the earliest church = creeds=20 ever. Paul writes:=20

"For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: = that=20 Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was = buried,=20 that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, = and that=20 he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. After that, he = appeared to=20 more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of = whom are=20 still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to = James,=20 then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, = as to=20 one abnormally born." (1 Cor. 15:3-8).=20

It is universally accepted that the passages about Christ's = death,=20 burial, and resurrection are one of the first church creeds ever = (see=20 Strobel, p 34-35). These creeds were written between 2-5 years = after=20 Christ's death. In historical documents, that's a blink of an eye. = For=20 example, the two earliest biographies of Alexander the Great were = written=20 more than four hundred years after Alexander's death in 323 = BC--yet they=20 are considered to be generally trustworthy. The shorter the time = gap=20 between an event and when it is recorded, the less likely that it = will=20 fall prey to human error and legend. Therefore, the fact that the = church=20 creeds were written within the first 5 years or so of the Church's = existence is very important.=20

Secondly, we have vast numbers of copies of the New Testament. = This is=20 also important because no original copy of the New Testament = exists today.=20 That means that all we have is copies of it. So how do we know = that the=20 copies are accurate?=20

First, you can cross-check the various documents to see how = they=20 differ. If you do this, between the various Greek, Latin, Syriac, = and=20 Coptic translations (of which there are 5,664 Greek manuscripts,=20 8,000-10,000 Latin Vulgate manuscripts, and 8,000 Ethiopic, = Slavic, and=20 Armenian manuscripts, for a total of around 24,000--there are only = 650=20 manuscripts of Homer's "Iliad" the book with the second most = number of=20 manuscripts behind the New Testament) then there are amazing=20 consistencies. It's so amazing that Norman Geisler and William Nix = said,=20 "The New Testament, then, has not only survived in more = manuscripts than=20 any other book from antiquity, but it has survived in a purer form = than=20 any other great book--a form that is 99.5 percent pure." (See = Geisler=20 & Nix, 367). It also must be noted that the variants (or=20 discrepancies) between the texts are usually matters of word order = (which=20 doesn't matter in Greek, since it is an inflected language) and = spelling,=20 and that no key doctrine is in jeopardy of having been corrupted.=20

Secondly, you can find the Bible quoted in many sources outside = of just=20 the New Testament. In fact, if every single New Testament = manuscript was=20 destroyed, the entire Bible could be reproduced from commentaries = written=20 by various theologians throughout the first millenium AD. This = gives us=20 even more manuscripts to test differences in.=20


For further information:=20

Norman Geisler and William Nix, A General = Introduction=20 to the Bible=20

Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands A Verdict=20

Lee Strobel, The Case For Christ

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