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Politics
Monday, April 30, = 2007
Rabbi Reveals = Name of the=20 Messiah
Shortly before = he died,=20 one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name = of the=20 Messiah on a small note which he requested would = remain sealed=20 until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what = many=20 have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), = is the=20 Messiah.

A few months = before he=20 died, one of the nation=E2=80=99s most prominent = rabbis, Yitzhak=20 Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a = small=20 note which he requested would remain sealed until now. = When=20 the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have = known for=20 centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the = Messiah.=20

With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and = kabbalist=20 described the Messiah using six words and hinting that = the=20 initial letters form the name of the Messiah. =1FThe = secret note=20 said:=20

Concerning the letter abbreviation of the = Messiah=E2=80=99s=20 name, He will lift the people and prove that = his word=20 and law are valid.=20

This=1Fis I have signed in the month of = mercy,
Yitzhak=20 Kaduri
=20

The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with = the=20 hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim = Ha=E2=80=99Am Veyokhiakh=20 Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim=20

The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, = Yehoshua.=20 Yehoshua and Yeshua are e=1Eectively the same name, = derived from=20 the same Hebrew root of the word = =E2=80=9Csalvation=E2=80=9D as documented in=20 Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. =1FThe same priest writes = in Ezra,=20 =E2=80=9CYeshua son of Yozadak=E2=80=9D while writing = in Zechariah =E2=80=9CYehoshua=20 son of Yohozadak.=E2=80=9D =1FThe priest adds the holy = abbreviation of=20 God=E2=80=99s name, ho, in the father=E2=80=99s name = Yozadak and in the name=20 Yeshua.=20

With one of Israel=E2=80=99s most prominent rabbis = indicating the=20 name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable = why his=20 last wish was to wait one year after his death before=20 revealing what he wrote.=20

When the name of Yehoshua appeared in = Kaduri=E2=80=99s message,=20 ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva=20 (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did = not leave=20 the exact solution for decoding the Messiah=E2=80=99s = name.=20

The revelation received scant coverage in the = Israeli=20 media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) = and=20 Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it = was=20 authentic. =1FThe Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a = story on=20 the note but described it as a forgery.

Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums = with mixed=20 feelings: =E2=80=9CSo this means Rabbi Kaduri was a = Christian?=E2=80=9D and=20 =E2=80=9CThe Christians are dancing and = celebrating,=E2=80=9D were among the=20 comments.=20

Israel Today spoke to two of = Kaduri=E2=80=99s=20 followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was=20 authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. = =E2=80=9CWe have=20 no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the = Messiah,=E2=80=9D one of=20 them said.=20

Yet others completely deny any possibility that the = note is=20 authentic. Kaduri=E2=80=99s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, = said that at the=20 time the note was written (September 2005), his = father=E2=80=99s=20 physical condition made it impossible for him to = write.=20


KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE = MESSIAH=20

A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, = he=20 surprised his followers when he told them that he met = the=20 Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom = Kippur,=20 the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the = Messiah.=20 He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to = Israel=20 after Ariel Sharon=E2=80=99s death. (The former prime = minister is=20 still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more = than a=20 year ago.)=20

Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim = Cohen,=20 kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim = Kneiveskzy.=20

Kaduri=E2=80=99s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said = his grandfather=20 spoke many times during his last days about the coming = of the=20 Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.=20

His spiritual portrayals of the = Messiah=E2=80=94reminiscent of New=20 Testament accounts=E2=80=94were published on the = websites Kaduri.net=20 and Nfc:=20

=E2=80=9CIt is hard for many good people in society = to understand=20 the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of = a=20 Messiah of =1Cflesh and blood is hard to accept for = many in the=20 nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any = office, but=20 will be among the people and use the media to = communicate. His=20 reign will be pure and without personal or political = desire.=20 During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will = reign.=20

=E2=80=9CWill all believe in the Messiah right = away? No, in the=20 beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. = It will=20 be easier for non-religious people to follow the = Messiah than=20 for Orthodox people.=20

=E2=80=9CThe revelation of the Messiah will be = ful=1Alled in two=20 stages: First, he will actively confirm his position = as=20 Messiah without knowing himself that he is the = Messiah. Then=20 he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily = to wise=20 Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only = then he=20 will reveal himself to the whole nation. =1EThe people = will=20 wonder and say: =E2=80=98What, that=E2=80=99s the = Messiah?=E2=80=99 Many have known=20 his name but have not believed that he is the = Messiah.=E2=80=9D=20


FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'=20

Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic = memory=20 and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi = and other=20 Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities = of the=20 last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and = kept=20 the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.=20

Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his = age of=20 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis = looked up=20 to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. = He=20 would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. = =1EThousands visited him to ask for counsel or = healing. His=20 followers speak of many miracles and his students say = that he=20 predicted many disasters.=20

When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the = funeral=20 procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their = respects=20 as he was taken to his=1Afinal resting place.=20

=E2=80=9CWhen he comes, the Messiah will rescue = Jerusalem from=20 foreign religions that want to rule the city,=E2=80=9D = Kaduri once=20 said. =E2=80=9CThey will not succeed for they will = fight against one=20 another.=E2=80=9D=20


THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT=20

In an interview with Israel Today, = Rabbi=20 David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi = Yitzhak=20 Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the = name=20 Yeshua just before he died.=20

=E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s not his writing,=E2=80=9D he = said when we showed him a copy=20 of the note.=20

During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak = Yeshiva=20 in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri=E2=80=99s = handwriting from=20 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to = prove that=20 the Messiah note was not authentic.=20

When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father=E2=80=99s = official=20 website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah = note, he=20 was shocked. =E2=80=9COh no! That=E2=80=99s blasphemy. = The people could=20 understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah = of the=20 Christians].=E2=80=9D=20

David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last = year, his=20 father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about = the=20 Messiah and his coming. =E2=80=9CMy father has met the = Messiah in a=20 vision,=E2=80=9D he said, =E2=80=9Cand told us that he = would come soon.=E2=80=9D=20

Israel Today was given access to = many of=20 the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for = the=20 exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the=20 cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the = pages. In=20 the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In = fact, even=20 the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might = be=20 mistaken for a cross.=20

But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own = hand.=20 When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David = Kaduri=20 said they were =E2=80=9Csigns of the angel." Pressed = further about the=20 meaning of the =E2=80=9Csigns of the angel," he said = he had no idea.=20 Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his = father had=20 had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the = Messiah=20 in his dreams.=20

Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva = told=20 Israel Today a few weeks later that = the story=20 about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never = have come=20 out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old = sage.=20

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1=20 .  Orthodox Jews - = "Hard Headed=20 unto Blindness?!" (2)
To = reject=20 "Christ" on tradition - whom was = prophesied=20 throughout the "Torah (by-the-way)", is = simply=20 illogical. And worse yet - to deneigh Him = or at=20 least give His divination and existance = (as the=20 true Messiah) a chance out of Arrogance = and/or=20 Pride - well, nough said. Arrogance and = pride are=20 why Satan fell???!!!
 
magend   4/28/2008=20 7:39=20 = PM
2=20 .  Orthodox Jews - = "Hard Headed=20 unto Blindness?!"
I = don''t get=20 it!!!
Orthodox Jewish refuse to accept = that a=20 "Compassionate" G-d may have manifest in = the flesh=20 (As Jesus Christ, Yeshua, Yehoshua) for = the=20 Forgiveness of sins and the salvation of = all, yet=20 believe "if I am correct" that He will = manifest in=20 the flesh and appear in the end. =
Please=20 correct me at will - but I find it hard to = see=20 much of a difference - if He could/will do = it in=20 the end - "why couldn''t He already have = done=20 it???"""" What am I missing??? =
 
magend   4/28/2008=20 7:32=20 = PM
3=20 .  OUTSIDE THE BIBLE =
Outside the=20 Bible we have speculations, suppositions = and=20 opinions.The truth is in the Bible.The = fact is=20 better than an opinion and the Truth is = higher=20 than a fact.Better to admit ignorance than = to=20 speculate.Better to be determined to know = the=20 truth than to think we know the truth(1st=20 Corinthians 8:2).The truth outside the = Bible is=20 not truth at all.You will know the Truth = and the=20 Truth will set you free(John 8:32)=20
 
Timoteo   4/23/2008=20 11:08=20 = PM
4=20 .  WE CAN LEARN HEBREW =

In the=20 times of Jesus on earth, I think no one = called Him=20 Jesus.There is no J in Hebrew.Only those = who speak=20 Hebrew, that is the Jews, can tell us how = to say=20 the Name of the Messiah of Israel.Thanks = God His=20 Name was revealed.The name of our Lord and = Saviour=20 is YESHUA HA=C2=B4MASHIACH, the Messiah of = Israel-Jesus=20 of Nazareth.I WISH I KNEW HEBREW. =
 
Timoteo   4/23/2008=20 10:27=20 = PM
5=20 .  WE CAN LEARN HEBREW =

In the=20 times of Jesus on earth, I think no one = called Him=20 Jesus.There is no J in Hebrew.Only those = who speak=20 Hebrew, that is the Jews, can tell us how = to say=20 the Name of the Messiah of Israel.Thanks = God His=20 Name was revealed.The name of our Lord and = Saviour=20 is YESHUA HA=C2=B4MASHIACH, the Messiah of = Israel-Jesus=20 of Nazareth.I WISH I KNEW HEBREW. =
 
Timoteo   4/23/2008=20 10:25=20 = PM
6=20 .  THE JEWISH STATE =
When we say=20 Jew, we are not speaking Hebrew.This is=20 English.According to the Bible Salvation = comes=20 from the Jews.The word Jews is in the = Bible.We can=20 get a Concordance and check.Jesus is a = jew.He is=20 the same yesterday, today and = forever.There are=20 people in the world(they are very few) who = deny=20 the Holocaust(1939-1945).They deny the = State of=20 Israel( 14/05/1948)They deny the Jews and = the=20 Jewish State.The same people, today are = denying=20 facts, reality and the truth.They dare = deny=20 09/11.THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE INDEED.=20
 
Timoteo   4/23/2008=20 10:13=20 = PM
7=20 .  WE CAN LEARN HEBREW =

In the=20 times of Jesus on earth, I think no one = called Him=20 Jesus.There is no J in Hebrew.Only those = who speak=20 Hebrew, that is the Jews, can tell us how = to say=20 the Name of the Messiah of Israel.Thanks = God His=20 Name was revealed.The name of our Lord and = Saviour=20 is YESHUA HA=C2=B4MASHIACH, the Messiah of = Israel-Jesus=20 of Nazareth.I WISH I KNEW HEBREW. =
 
Timoteo   4/23/2008=20 9:45=20 = PM
8=20 .  Was Yahoshua a Jew =
Yahoshua is=20 not a Jew nor did he practice Juadism. He = was an=20 Hebrew Israelite. The letter J is only 400 = years=20 old so it is impossible for him to be an = "Jew".=20 Jews are just who they are and have = nothing to do=20 w/ the native Hebrew Israelites. When we = refer to=20 the chosen ones of the most high we should = not say=20 Jew. That name alone is an deciption.=20
 
Loving = Yah and=20 Yahoshua   4/21/2008=20 5:39=20 = PM
9=20 .  Jesus is the Messiah =
you read the=20 scriptures (torah) and in them you think = you have=20 eternal life but in them they speak of me- = Jesus.=20 to enter into the kingdom your = righteousness must=20 exceede the righteousness of the pharisees = Jesus=20 said. you see the whole point of that = statement is=20 that it is impossible. the whole point of = the law=20 is to show that you and i cannot keep it. = that=20 means were in need of a Savior, JESUS. = Zech 3:8=20 Behold my Servant the Branch. Jesus came = as the=20 Servant in His first coming, next as the = KING, JER=20 23:5. by Grace you have been saved through = not of=20 woks lest any man should boast. Jesus He = Himself=20 is the propitiation for our sins and not = for our=20 sins only but for the sins of the whole = world. as=20 the sepant was lifted up in the wilderness = so must=20 the Son of Man be lifted up. all you and i = have to=20 do is look to Jesus the author and = finisher of our=20 faith and we will be saved. Jesus said, = whoever=20 comes to me i will by no means cast out. = Jesus=20 took our sins upon Him died, conqured = death by=20 rising from the grave, a =
 
josiah   4/19/2008=20 8:22=20 = PM
10=20 .  I Love Israel
I = am an=20 American Chirstian who believes Yehoshua=20 HaMashiach is the Messiah of Israel but I = will=20 stand by the people of Israel even if they = do not=20 believe the same as I do. I take alot of = abuse for=20 my love of Israel and the Jewish people = but they=20 were chosen from out of the nations to = bear the=20 salvation message of G-d to an evil world = and I=20 love them for it. I am thankful for the = Tanakh and=20 I read it as often as I read the Brit = Chadasha for=20 they are the revealed word of G-D. Have = courage=20 & faith my Jewish bretheren for = Messiah will=20 come again as He has promised and His = reward is=20 with Him. Blessed be HaShem. =
 
Mayeeden   4/9/2008 8:35=20 = AM
11=20 .  For I, the LORD, = love justice=20
61:8 =E2=80=9C, I hate=20 robbery with iniquity and I will give them = their=20 recompense in truth, and I will make an=20 everlasting covenant with them. 61:9 Their = seed=20 shall be known among the nations, and = their=20 offspring among the peoples all who see = them shall=20 acknowledge them, that they are the seed = which the=20 LORD has blessed.=E2=80=9D
61:10 I = will greatly=20 rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be = joyful in my=20 God for he has clothed me with the = garments of=20 salvation, he has covered me with the robe = of=20 righteousness, as a bridegroom decks = himself with=20 a garland, and as a bride adorns herself = with her=20 jewels. 61:11 For as the earth brings = forth its=20 bud, and as the garden causes the things = that are=20 sown in it to spring forth so the Lord GOD = will=20 cause righteousness and praise to spring = forth=20 before all the nations. =

 
  3/15/2008=20 8:36=20 = PM
12=20 .  But you
61:6 shall be=20 named the priests of the LORD men will = call you=20 the ministers of our God: you will eat the = wealth=20 of the nations, and you will boast in = their glory.=20
61:7 Instead of your shame you shall = have=20 double and instead of dishonor they shall = rejoice=20 in their portion: therefore in their land = they=20 shall possess double everlasting joy shall = be to=20 them.
61:8 =E2=80=9CFor I, the LORD, = love justice, I=20 hate robbery with iniquity and I will give = them=20 their recompense in truth, and I will make = an=20 everlasting covenant with them. 61:9 Their = seed=20 shall be known among the nations, and = their=20 offspring among the peoples all who see = them shall=20 acknowledge them, that they are the seed = which the=20 LORD has blessed.=E2=80=9D =

 
  3/15/2008=20 8:33=20 = PM
13=20 .  The Spirit of the = Lord GOD=20
61:1 is on me=20
because the LORD has anointed me to = proclaim=20 good news to the humble.
He has sent = me to=20 bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim = liberty=20 to the captives,
and release to those = who are=20 bound
61:2 to proclaim the year of the = LORD=E2=80=99s=20 favor, and the day of vengeance of our God = to=20 comfort all who mourn 61:3 to appoint to = those who=20 mourn in Zion, to give to them a garland = for=20 ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the = garment of=20 praise for the spirit of heaviness that = they may=20 be called trees of righteousness, the = planting of=20 the LORD, that he may be glorified. =
61:4 They=20 shall build the old wastes, they shall = raise up=20 the former desolations, and they shall = repair the=20 waste cities, the desolations of many = generations.=20 61:5 Strangers shall stand and feed your = flocks,=20 and foreigners shall be your plowmen and = your=20 vinedressers. 61:6 But you shall be named = the=20 priests of the LORD men will call you the=20 ministers of our God: you will eat the = wealth of=20 the nations, and you will boast in=20
 
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Malik = Shaw   3/12/2008=20 5:14=20 = PM
19=20 .  JESUSALEN IS THE NEW = CITY
DO = NOT EXIST=20 ANY RELIGION.ADONAY D US TO BE TOGETHER = AND HUMANS=20 BEING D RELIGION TO SEPARATE PEOPLE.JESUS = THE=20 MASHIAJ SHOWED THAT ADONAY LOVE EVERYONE = JEWS AND=20 GENTILES.
 
CRISTIAN   2/13/2008=20 9:00=20 = PM
20=20 .  JESUSALEN IS THE = LAST PROPHESY=20
JESUS IS THE=20 MASHIAJ BECAUSE HE FOUGHT AGAINTS HIS OWN = EVIL=20 MIND.WHEN EVERY HUMAN BEING IS THINKING = OUR OWN=20 VOICE TALKS TO US TO SAY AND DO SOMETHING = WRONG OR=20 RIGHT AND JESUS THE MASHIAJ DESTROYED THE = WRONG=20 SIDE(THE LIE) WITH THE TRUTH. =
 
CRISTIAN   2/13/2008=20 8:52=20 = PM
21=20 .  Re: Messiah Part 8 =
"The=20 astonishing and all over-riding fact is = that=20 Messiah was NOT a Christian! - and never = ever=20 instituted a new non-Jewish religion! "=20

Many Christians acknowledge that = Paul was=20 the inventor of Christianity. Also I do = not know=20 of anyone who would deny Jesus'' Jewish = faith.=20

He did however come to replace the = Temple,=20 which is multiply attested in the New = Testament=20 when he disrupts the market in the Temple. = He had=20 no intention of disgracing the Temple His = actions=20 were symolising future destruction, = parrallel to=20 other prophets.

Think of the other = side of=20 the coin. Have you ever thought with your = heart=20 about who Jesus is or could be? =
 
Karen   1/30/2008=20 11:46=20 = PM
22=20 .  Who hiding, except = the one not=20 hearing.
The two loafs=20 of bread on the table in the Tabernacle = are the=20 presentation of the two House of Israel = and the=20 House of Judah, remember Ephraim since = Ephraim is=20 the symbolic and physical picture of the = lost=20 tribes therefore both houses are united = under the=20 ONE olive tree that is Israel. Have you = noticed=20 how people are saying that I have rejected = Israel=20 and Judah, the two families that I chose?=20
Jeremiah 33:24

 
Od = ephriam chai   1/24/2008=20 7:43=20 = PM
23=20 .  Why wait? Why hide? =
It = would seem=20 to me that a man as holy and wise as Rabbi = Yitzkhak Kaduri, would not write such a = thing down=20 if it were true. He would immediately = teach it,=20 not wasting any time and being obedient to = "Yeshua" to "Go into all the world...." = etc, etc.=20 It makes not sense that a righteous man = would=20 conceal/withold such important info.
IF = IT WERE=20 TRUE!!!
 
Dvora   1/24/2008=20 7:46=20 = AM
24=20 .  the Messiah part 8 =
or = a stroke=20 will pass from the Torah - not until = everything=20 that must happen, has happened. So, = whoever=20 disobeyes the least of these Mitsvot=20 (commandments) and teaches others to do = so, will=20 be called the least in the Kingdom of = Heaven. But=20 whoever obeyes them and so teaches, will = be called=20 great in the Kingdom of Heaven." (Sterns = Complete=20 Jewish Bible)

It is only with this = realisation of the Jewishness of the NT, = that one=20 can truly understand the True Message = thereof.=20

The astonishing and all = over-riding fact=20 is that Messiah was NOT a Christian! - and = never=20 ever instituted a new non-Jewish religion! = "=20


 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 7:33=20 = PM
25=20 .  the Messiah part 8 =
or = a stroke=20 will pass from the Torah - not until = everything=20 that must happen, has happened. So, = whoever=20 disobeyes the least of these Mitsvot=20 (commandments) and teaches others to do = so, will=20 be called the least in the Kingdom of = Heaven. But=20 whoever obeyes them and so teaches, will = be called=20 great in the Kingdom of Heaven." (Sterns = Complete=20 Jewish Bible)

It is only with this = realisation of the Jewishness of the NT, = that one=20 can truly understand the True Message = thereof.=20

The astonishing and all = over-riding fact=20 is that Messiah was NOT a Christian! - and = never=20 ever instituted a new non-Jewish religion! = "=20


 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 7:00=20 = PM
26=20 .  the Messiah part 7 =
"... and=20 taught Torah to many..." (English = translation=20 renders: "and they taught many people") =
"...=20 It was at Antioch that the disciples were = first=20 called Christians." (Hebrew literal=20 ''"Meshichi''im" from the root Meschiach = =3D=20 Messiah).(Sterns Complete Jewish Bible = renders=20 this verse "...were called Messianic."=20

Only someone who has been raised a = Christian, can fail to recognise the = Jewishness of=20 this compilation of books known as the New = Testament. Prime example - How many = Christians=20 today realise that Messiah Himself was an=20 exemplary Jew? They simply assume and = blindly=20 accept that He was a Christian! Jews = again, puppet=20 the Christian interpreters by accusing = Messiah of=20 "having done away with the Torah (Law)!" = Nothing=20 can be further from the Truth than this! = Messiah=20 is quoted in Matthew 5:17 as stating: = "Don''t=20 think that I have come to abolish the = Torah or the=20 prophets. I have come not to abolish, but = to=20 complete. Yes, indeed! I tell you, that = until=20 Heaven and earth pass away, not so much as = a yud=20
 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:57=20 = PM
27=20 .  the Messiah part 6 =
and non-Jewish=20 adherents of Messianism.

Some 300 = years=20 later, Christianity would be officially = instituted=20 and recognized under the auspices of the = Zeus=20 worshipping Roman Emperor, Constantine. He = had=20 purportedly been converted to = Christianity, but=20 the same year that he convened the Council = of=20 Nicea (which officially constituted the = Trinity=20 and Sunday-Sabbath), he gave private = orders for=20 the execution of Crispus, his eldest son = and for=20 the suffocation in a hot bath, of his wife = of 20=20 years, Faista. A literal translation of = the Hebrew=20 version of the above quoted text (Acts = 11:26,=20 according to a publication of the = Trinitarian=20 Bible Society), clearly contradicts their = English=20 rendering and confirms the Jewishness of = what they=20 promote as the "early church"

Acts = 11:26 -=20 literal translation "..and they settled = there for=20 a complete year closely with the Qahal..." = (not=20 church or ekklesia) - refer "The True=20 Congregation

 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:56=20 = PM
28=20 .  the Messiah part =
a = perfect=20 pest. He stirs up trouble among Jews the = world=20 over and is a ringleader of the Nazarene = sect."=20





Paul admits in = verse 14=20 "It is according to the Way that they = describe as=20 a sect, that I worship the God of my = ancestors=20 (the Hebrew patriarchs) retaining my = belief in all=20 points of the Torah (Law) and what is = written in=20 the Nevi''im (Prophets of the ''Old = Testament'')".=20

It is clear from this, that this = first=20 Messianic congregation was a ''sect'' of = Judaism,=20 practising Jewish Law and custom.=20

Christians like to refer to the = following=20 text to prove that the early Messianic=20 congregation of the Messiah was = ''Christian''.=20
Acts 11:26 "It was at Antioch that the = disciples were called Christians." =
Well after=20 the establishment of the Jewish Messianic=20 Congregation on Shavuot (Pentecost), the=20 establishment of this sect at Antioch = probably was=20 the first split away from the original = Jewish=20 Messianism to ''Christianity''. It = signified the=20 split between Jewish Messianism an=20
 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:54=20 = PM
29=20 .  the Messiah part 4 =
He = most=20 certainly taught Judaism, as Matthew. ch. = 5=20 testifies to. He never claimed or foresaw = a=20 ''new'' religion (Matt. ch 5) and clearly = claimed=20 in Matt 5:20: "For I tell you, unless your = virtue=20 greatly surpass that of the Scribes and = Pharicees,=20 you will never get into the Kingdom of = Heaven".=20

The Inscription on His Death Stake = labeled=20 Him "King of the Jews"! Even at His Death, = He was=20 buried according to Jewish custom in a = Jewish=20 Grave.

The Apostles who took this = Message=20 into the world, were Jews, teaching = Judaism, with=20 now a Jewish Messiah included! Thus, the = first=20 believers were not Christians, but = Messianic Jews.=20 The non-Jews who accepted Him, had to be = brought=20 into the Jewish Faith. The New Testament=20 Scriptures speak of controversies, even = amongst=20 these Jewish Apostles and teachers, = regarding the=20 necessity of circumcision and the extent = of the=20 Jewish Laws which had to be kept by = converts who=20 accepted the Jewish Messiah.

Acts = 24:5=20 "The plain truth is that we find this man = (Paul) a=20 p
 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:53=20 = PM
30=20 .  the Messiah part 3 =
beginning, not=20 as Christian believers like to believe, of = the=20 regathering,the Jewish Yahshua Movement. = These=20 Yahshua leaders were in the Jewish Temple = in=20 Jerusalem when they were "baptised in the = Spirit".=20 They were all Jews - not Christians!=20

Setting the record straight then, = firstly,=20 Yahshua Himself was a Jew, an Israelite, = born to a=20 Jewish mother. He was circumcised at the = age of 8=20 days (Luke 2:21) and was consecrated on = the 42nd=20 day according to Jewish Law (Luke 2:22). = He grew=20 up in a Jewish Community and had a = Bar''Mitzvah in=20 the Jewish Temple at the age of 12, = according to=20 Jewish tradition. He astounded the learned = Jewish=20 teachers even at that young age, with His=20 Knowledge of the Scriptures (Luke 3:47).=20

As an adult, He was so = conspicuously a=20 Jew, that strangers addressed Him as = Rabbi'' (John=20 1:38, 49 3:2 26 6:25 20:16). He attended = Synagogue=20 Services on Sabbaths, "as His custom was" = (Luke=20 4:16). He regularly taught in the = Synagogues, "and=20 everyone praised Him" (Luke 4:15).=20


 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:51=20 = PM
31=20 .  the Messiah part 2 =
of = one''s mind=20 will open to Truth of the Original True = Faith ,=20 which Jude 3 commends Messianic believers = to=20 return to. The Tanach (''Old'' Testament) = in its=20 last paragraph in the Book of Malachi, = also=20 commends us: Torah.

Malachi 4:4 = "Remember=20 the Law of Moses, My Servant, to whom at = Horeb I=20 prescribed Laws and Customs for the whole = House of=20 Israel. Know that I am going to send you = Elijah=20 the Prophet before My Day comes, that = Great and=20 Terrible Day. He shall turn the hearts of = the=20 fathers to their children and the hearts = of=20 children towards their fathers, lest I = come and=20 strike the land with a curse."

The = overwhelming evidence proves that the NT = was a=20 Jewish book, written almost exclusively by = Jews,=20 who were the spiritual leaders of the lost = tribes=20 of Israel. These Israelites were made up = mostly of=20 Jewish believers who came to accept the = Jewish=20 Yahshua. At its inception, at the Jewish = Feast of=20 Shavuot (Pentecost), 50 days after His=20 crucifixion, 3 000 Jewish believers = accepted Him.=20 This was the
 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:49=20 = PM
32=20 .  the Messiah
Yahushua is=20 not Jesus. Christianityis the Mystery in = the=20 Babylon ,the women who rode the beast. = Once Judah=20 understands that out of this false = religion they=20 will find their lost brothers,that have = been trap=20 in for 2000 years. A small number are = waiting for=20 the call home. Now that the punishment for = idol=20 worship has been fulfill,they may get to = go home=20 at least some them. If you thing 22000 = false=20 religions, that can not agree on their = false Jesus=20 can understand YHWH your wrong. And, most = still do=20 not heard the words of the Torah. =

Who=20 = Yahushua/Yehoshua

Quote:

"There is a=20 common mis-understanding amongst = Christians in=20 that they believe that the New Testament = was=20 written for Christians. This misconception = withholds the truth from those who hold to = this=20 traditional view. Christians grow up to = believe=20 that the NT was only for Christians, = written by=20 Christians and teaching about the = Christian Faith.=20

History totally refutes this - and = when=20 one starts understanding this, then the = doors=20
 
Od = Ephriam Chai   1/23/2008=20 6:44=20 = PM
33=20 .  He is one:
THE WORD-=20 comes from inside and therefore is always = part of=20 the body it leaves, and it does not return = void!=20
 
Veronica   1/21/2008=20 6:53=20 = AM
34=20 .  He is one:
THE WORD-=20 comes from inside and therefore is always = part of=20 the body it leaves, and it does not return = void!=20
 
Veronica   1/21/2008=20 6:53=20 = AM
35=20 .  Rabbi Reveals Name = of the=20 Messiah
What do you=20 equal the name Yahushua with = Jesus.

Do not=20 do that.
Jesus is greek.
Yahushua is = Hebrew,=20 meaning Yah the savior.

Messiah of = Yosef=20





 
Od = Ephrim Chai   1/20/2008=20 3:57=20 = PM
36=20 .  the Messiah
We = all know in=20 the Bible that Jesus clearly said: Matthew = 24:5=20 "For many will come in My name, saying, I = am the=20 Christ, and they will lead many astray." = In the=20 book of Matthew He described how it will = be when=20 He returns -the same way as He ascended to = Heaven!=20 : "and He will send out His angels with a = loud=20 trumpet call, and they will gather His = ellect from=20 one end of the universe to another." = Everybody=20 will see Jesus and know that He has = returned! He=20 will not sneak trough the backdoor and try = to=20 convince people who He is...."if, = according to=20 this rabbi, he doesn''t know yet that He = is the=20 Messiah..."!!! It sounds more like the = anti-Christ=20 to me!
 
Anette   1/19/2008=20 7:49=20 = AM
37=20 .  The Messiah...
We = all know in=20 the Bible that Jesus clearly said: Matthew = 24:5=20 "For many will come in My name, saying, I = am the=20 Christ, and they will lead many astray." = In the=20 book of Matthew He described how it will = be when=20 He returns -the same way as He ascended to = Heaven!=20 : "and He will send out His angels with a = loud=20 trumpet call, and they will gather His = ellect from=20 one end of the universe to another." = Everybody=20 will see Jesus and know that He has = returned! He=20 will not sneak trough the backdoor and try = to=20 convince people who He is...."if, = according to=20 this rabbi, he doesn''t know yet that He = is the=20 Messiah..."!!! It sounds more like the = anti-Christ=20 to me!
 
Anette   1/19/2008=20 7:46=20 = AM
38=20 .  Our L-rd did take = our sin and=20 came to his own and was deined
Isaiah 53 : 1=20 - 12
1Who hath believed our report? and = to whom=20 is the arm of the LORD revealed? =

2For he=20 shall grow up before him as a tender = plant, and as=20 a root out of a dry ground: he hath no = form nor=20 comeliness and when we shall see him, = there is no=20 beauty that we should desire him. =

3He is=20 despised and rejected of men a man of = sorrows, and=20 acquainted with grief: and we hid as it = were our=20 faces from him he was despised, and we = esteemed=20 him not.

4Surely he hath borne our = griefs,=20 and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem = him=20 stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.=20

5But he was wounded for our=20 transgressions, he was bruised for our = iniquities:=20 the chastisement of our peace was upon him = and=20 with his stripes we are healed. =

6All we=20 like sheep have gone astray we have turned = every=20 one to his own way and the LORD hath laid = on him=20 the iniquity of us all.

7He was = oppressed,=20 and he was afflicted, yet he opened not = his mouth:=20 he is brought as a lamb to the =
 
Tom   1/19/2008=20 7:34=20 = AM
39=20 .  Jesus being the = Messiah
Dear=20 sir
this is awesome, There is many = prophecies=20 of the coming Messiah, I think about 325 = of them.=20 Yeshuah fulfilled them all . If Yeshuah = wasn''t=20 the Messiah and didn''t fulfill them all=20 .christianity hasn''t any solid foundation = . If he=20 didn''t die on the cross for our sins, or = was=20 raised from the dead. Christianity is = false and=20 All us christians are deluded.
I had a = dream of=20 Yeshuah once. You never forget it. When I = became a=20 christian I learnt how to worship the G-d = of=20 Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I know there = is a lot=20 of differences between Jews and Christians = but=20 both religions have the same roots and = believe in=20 the Tenach.
G-d Bless = everyone
Donna=20
 
Donna   1/18/2008=20 2:29=20 = PM
40=20 .  Abba
For Abba so=20 loved the world that He gave His only Son, = that=20 whoever believes in Him may have eternal=20 life.

John 3:16 =
 
Ray = Bobier   1/18/2008=20 6:12=20 = AM
41=20 .  Truth/Rebekah. = Norway/Malik=20 Shaw
Rev 2:13,=20 means they were living in sin. They were = sinning.=20 All sin is of Satan, hence the referrence = to=20 ''dwelling where the Adversary lives''. =
The=20 ancient messianic prophecies that are to = be found=20 in the books of the prophets, were all = fulfilled=20 by Yeshua. God loves His Jewish nation and = wants=20 them to turn to Him and the accept truth = that=20 Yeshua is the Messiah. I pray for all = Jews, my=20 heart goes out to you all. The Messianics = are not=20 out to trap you, but to help you find the = freedom=20 and love that is the message of Yeshua. = Shalom=20
 
Susan = B   1/18/2008=20 2:55=20 = AM
42=20 .  Yeshua
Yeshua, Jesus=20 Christ, is the Messiah of Israel. =
 
Betty = S.   1/17/2008=20 10:58=20 = PM
43=20 .  Stubborness>> =
Hence the term=20 "stubborn as a Jew"
You wont believe = anything=20 until you see it with your eyes, and even = then you=20 will doubt. Well that time draws near for = Israel=20 and its people.
 
joe   1/17/2008=20 9:14=20 = PM
44=20 .  jesusalen is the = redemption.=20
yeshualayin is=20 the redemption.
 
cristian = daniel=20 verdun   1/5/2008 8:29=20 = PM
45=20 .  yeshualayin
yeshualayin is=20 the redemption.
 
cristian = daniel=20 verdun   1/5/2008 8:27=20 = PM
46=20 .  yeshualayin
yeshualayin is=20 the redemption.
 
cristian = daniel=20 verdun   1/5/2008 8:22=20 = PM
47=20 .  The Messiah
Yeshua said "I=20 have come in my Father''s name and you did = not=20 accept Me, but one will come in his own = name him=20 you will accept." Yeshua also said He = would return=20 from the heavens on a cloud with great = glory. The=20 man Rav Kaduri describes does not sound = like the=20 messiah but like the anti-messiah. Real = trouble=20 for the world and its people. =
 
SVO   12/22/2007=20 9:19=20 = PM
48=20 .  Yehoshua
Shoah is=20 contained by this Hebrew name.

is = this=20 relevant?

I deconstruct = language.

In=20 world is WORD. Within names there is a = deep=20 potential that has everything to do with = our=20 lives. There is a reason that Biblically = there is=20 so much attention to names and naming = through=20 Adam.

in=20 truth/Ruth



 
ruth = housman   12/21/2007=20 12:09=20 = AM
49=20 .  Messiah, in regards = Dave''s=20 post
I = would have=20 to disagree. There is a possiblity that = the Rabbi=20 misinterpreted the vision. Remember that = the two=20 witnesses are annointed ones (messiah = means=20 annointed one). The two witnesses are the = house of=20 Israel and the house of Judah. Thus, both = united=20 under the name of Christ fulfills both the = vision=20 of the Messiah coming and allowing the = Nation of=20 Israel to become what is always was but = never=20 realized- an annointed witness of Christ = to the=20 nations.
 
Matty = B   12/19/2007=20 5:34=20 = PM
50=20 .  Messianic Musings =
I = find it=20 interesting that rabbis are traditionally=20 referring to The Messiah as a man. This is = a kind=20 of closure, the mind snapped shut on=20 possibilities.

Perhaps through the = transmomigration of souls, Jesus came = back. As a=20 woman! Now if God had a son, perhaps God = also had=20 a daughter. Connect the daughts. Do not = close your=20 mind to possibilities and it is not that = far=20 fetched to write these = things.


We''re=20 all connected, more deeply than we ever = thought=20 possible. This is a Family of Man. = Humility is the=20 key.
Shed that ego. We''re all in this=20 together!

Jewish mysticism and = Sufism speak=20 to the soul journey. Sufi means wool or = wool=20 gatherer and also wisdom. These two = spiritual=20 streams have profound connects. =

God loves=20 humor. I like to think God is "pulling the = wool"=20 our eyes.

Perhaps one day we will = "know".=20 In the meantime we can bring in the light=20 together.
 
ruth = housman   12/16/2007=20 9:46=20 = PM
51=20 .  Messiah
The one this=20 Rabbi Kaduri is speaking of is none other = than the=20 Anti-Christ that Jesus/Yeshua spoke of in = His=20 ministry. Matt.24-4 And Jesus answered and = said to=20 them: "Take heed that no one deceives = you.
5=20 "For many will come in My name, saying, = ''I am the=20 Christ,'' and will deceive many.*This = signifies=20 that the ''Time of Jacob''s Trouble'' is=20 here.

 
Dave-BNBIH   12/11/2007=20 11:30=20 = AM
52=20 .  Rebekah of Norway =
Rebekah:
On=20 one hand your comments are that of a = Christian. On=20 the other hand your comments sound = Messianic. As=20 one who supports Israel with no hidden = agenda -I=20 find your comment saying Bull shi_
to = be vile=20 and offensive. If I were to slam a = rabbi-which I=20 would not do, you would call me an=20 anti-semite.
I am of Jewish extraction = mixed=20 with Native American blood-so don''t go = there with=20 me. You can post your comment or two-not = 12 and=20 move on. You need something to balance = yourself be=20 it medicine or something else. I can agree = to=20 disagree with you-but the scriptures since = Gen1-through all of Torah point to a = suffering=20 Servant who DID come and the Shekinah was = and IS=20 Yeshua and HE will return! This covenat is = still=20 with the Jews and all who believe!!=20
 
Scot   12/9/2007=20 7:33=20 = PM
53=20 .  Out of Zion, the = perfection of=20 beauty, God hath shined...
forth. Our God=20 cometh, and
doth not keep silence,
a = fire=20 devoureth before Him,

and round = about Him=20 it stormeth mightily.

He calleth to = the=20 heavens above, and to the earth,
that = He may=20 judge His people:

''Gather My = saints=20 together unto Me, those that have made =
a=20 covenant with Me by = sacrifice.''

And the=20 heavens declare His righteousness,
for = God, He=20 is judge. Selah

''Hear, O My = people, and I=20 will speak, O Israel, and I will =
testify=20 against thee:

GOD, THY GOD, AM = I.
Psalm=20 50:2-7

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/5/2007=20 12:05=20 = AM
54=20 .  FOR OUT OF ZION = SHALL GO FORTH=20 THE LAW (the Torah),
AND THE WORD=20 OF THE LORD
FROM JERUSALEM.
Micah = 4:2,=20 Isaiah 2:3

Oh that the salvation of = Israel
were come out of Zion! =

When the=20 LORD turneth the captivity of His people, = let=20
Jacob rejoice, let Israel be = glad.
Psalm=20 14:7

The LORD answer thee in the = day
of=20 trouble, the Name of the
God of Jacob = set thee=20 up on high,

Send forth thy help = from=20
the Sanctuary, and
support thee = out of=20 Zion,
Psalm 20:2-3

The LORD = bless thee=20 out of Zion, and see thou the good
of=20 Jerusalem all the days of thy = life.

And see=20 thy children''s children. Peace be upon = Israel!=20
Psalm 128:5-6

Blessed be the = LORD out=20 of Zion, who dwelleth
at Jerusalem.=20 Hallelujah.
Psalm = 135:21

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:55=20 = PM
55=20 .  And as for Me, this = is My=20 covenant with them (the Jews),
saith the=20 LORD.

My spirit that is upon = thee,
and=20 My words which
I have put in thy = mouth,=20

shall not depart out of thy mouth, = nor out=20 of the mouth of thy seed,

nor out = of the=20 mouth of thy seed''s seed, saith the LORD, =

from henceforth and for ever.* =
Isaiah=20 59:21

*No matter how bitter the=20 tribulations of exile and = oppression,

THE=20 TORAH WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

FROM = THE=20 JEWISH PEOPLE = (Rashi).

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:40=20 = PM
56=20 .  AND A REDEEMER WILL = COME TO=20 ZION, AND UNTO THEM
THAT TURN FROM=20

TRANSGRESSION IN JACOB,
SAITH = THE=20 LORD.
Isaiah 59:20

FALSE = CHRISTIAN=20 BIBLE: NKJ

And so all Israel will = be saved,=20
as it is written:

The = Deliverer=20 (Jesus) will come
out of Zion, And He = will=20 turn
away ungodliness from = Jacob,

For=20 this is My covenant with them, When I = (Jesus) take=20 away their sins.

Paul''s letter to = the=20 Romans 11:26-27

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:34=20 = PM
57=20 .  And He (God) saw = that there=20 was no man, and was...
astonished=20 that there was no = intercessor,

therefore=20 His own arm brought salvation unto Him, = and His=20 righteousness, it sustained Him, =

And He=20 put on righteousness as
a coat of mail, = and a=20
helmet of salvation upon His head, =

and=20 He put on garments of vengeance for = clothing,=20
and was clad with zeal as a cloak.=20

According to their deeds, =
accordingly=20 He
will repay, fury to His = adversaries,=20

recompense to His enemies,
to = the=20 islands He
will repay recompense. =

So=20 shall they fear the Name
of the LORD =
from=20 the west, and His glory from the rising of = the=20 sun,

for distress will come in like = a=20 flood, which the breath
of the LORD=20 driveth.
Isaiah = 59:16-19

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:25=20 = PM
58=20 .  For our = transgressions are=20 multiplied before Thee,
and our sins=20 testify against us,

for our = transgressions=20 are
present to us, and as for
our=20 iniquities, we know them: =

Transgressing=20 and denying the LORD, and turning away =
from=20 following our God, speaking oppression and = perverseness,

conceiving and = uttering from=20 the heart words of falsehood.

And = justice=20 is turned away backward, and righteousness = standeth afar off,

for truth hath = stumbled=20 in the broad place, and uprightness cannot = enter.

And truth is lacking, and he =
that departeth from
evil maketh = himself a=20 prey.

And the LORD saw it, and it=20 displeased Him
that there was no = justice,=20
Isaiah=20 = 59:12-15

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1059.htm

=
 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:16=20 = PM
59=20 .  The way of peace = they (the=20 Christians) know not,
and there is=20 no right in their goings,

they have = made=20 them crooked paths, whosoever goeth =
therein=20 doth not know peace.

Therefore is = justice=20 far from us, neither doth righteousness=20
overtake us, we look for light, =

but=20 behold darkness, for brightness, but we = walk in=20 gloom. We
grope for the wall like the = blind,=20 yea,

as they that have no eyes do = we=20 grope, we stumble at noonday
as in the = twilight, we
are in dark places like = the dead.=20

We all growl like bears, and mourn = sore=20 like doves, we look
for right, but = there is=20 none,

for salvation, but it is far = off from=20 us.
Isaiah = 59:8-11

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:11=20 = PM
60=20 .  They hatch = basilisks'' eggs,=20 and weave the spider''s web...
he = that eateth=20 of their eggs dieth,

and that = which is=20 crushed breaketh out into a viper. =

Their=20 webs shall not become garments, neither = shall men=20
cover themselves with their=20 works,

their works are works of = iniquity,=20
and the act
of violence is in = their hands.=20

Their feet run to evil, and they = make=20 haste to shed innocent blood,

their = thoughts are thoughts
of iniquity, = desolation=20 and
destruction are in their paths. =
Isaiah=20 59:5-7

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:06=20 = PM
61=20 .  Uziyahu: Behold, the = LORD''S=20 hand is not shortened,
that it cannot=20 save, neither His ear heavy, that it = cannot hear.=20

But your iniquities have separated = between=20 you and your God,

and your sins = have hid=20 His face from you, that He will not hear.=20

For your hands are defiled with = blood, and=20 your fingers with iniquity,

your = lips have=20 spoken lies, your tongue muttereth = wickedness.=20

None sueth in righteousness, and = none=20 pleadeth in truth,
they trust in = vanity, and=20 speak lies,

they conceive = mischief, and=20 bring forth iniquity.
Isaiah=20 59:1-4

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   12/4/2007=20 11:03=20 = PM
62=20 .  I thank the G_d of = Abraham,=20 Isaac and Jacob
for Rabbi=20 Kaduri. His parting note is just another = gift the=20 Holy Spirit has given G_d''s chosen people = to=20 prepare them for the end of the age. = Reject the=20 Branch if you must, but thanks to Rabbi = Kaduri, of=20 blessed memory, you will be without excuse = when he=20 comes not as a suffering servant but as = the King=20 from the House of David. =
 
Juan = Bautista   11/30/2007=20 8:34=20 = PM
63=20 .  I thank the G_d of = Abraham,=20 Isaac and Jacob
for Rabbi=20 Kaduri. His parting note is just another = gift the=20 Holy Spirit has given G_d''s chosen people = to=20 prepare them for the end of the age. = Reject the=20 Branch if you must, but thanks to Rabbi = Kaduri, of=20 blessed memory, you will be without excuse = when he=20 comes not as a suffering servant but as = the King=20 from the House of David. =
 
Juan = Bautista   11/30/2007=20 8:22=20 = PM
64=20 .  Anti-semtism, help = me=20 understand
Is = Isreal=20 Anti-semitic, are Jews the only semitic = people in=20 the middle east. Also why do they not = accept the=20 original jew, the falasha. They are not = even=20 accepted in Isreal, perhaps because they = are=20 black? Reminds me of the Jewish = International=20 Bankers who backed Hitler. Hiprocrisy at = its best,=20 Thats ISREAL
 
Malik = Shaw   11/28/2007=20 10:27=20 = PM
65=20 .  Christian Story on a = Christian=20 Website
Christian=20 Story on a Christian = Website.

Wasn''t=20 expecting that. : P

uziyahuidf on = YouTube,=20 if you want to see how bankrupt your = "truth" is.=20
 
Uziyahu   11/26/2007=20 2:59=20 = AM
66=20 .  female prophets stop = telling=20 lies.

 
michael = c.   11/23/2007=20 2:01=20 = AM
67=20 .  GIVE THANKS TO = HASHEM FOR HE=20 IS GOOD, FOR HIS KINDNESS
ENDURES FOR=20 EVER.

GIVE THANKS TO THE GOD OF THE = HEAVENLY POWERS,

FOR HIS KINDNESS = ENDURES=20 FOREVER.

GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD OF = THE=20 LORDS,

FOR HIS KINDNESS ENDURES=20 FOREVER.
Psalm = 136:1-3

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:36=20 = PM
68=20 .  FOR HASHEM, YOUR GOD = - HE IS=20 THE GOD OF THE POWERS
AND THE LORD=20 OF THE LORDS,

THE GREAT, MIGHTY, = AND=20 AWESOME GOD,

WHO DOES NOT SHOW=20 FAVOR*

*Who does not show favor, = i.e.,=20
the greater a person''s status =

AND=20 OPPORTUNITIES TO DO GOOD,

THE MORE=20 DEMANDING GOD IS WITH HIM.

AND WHO = DOES NOT=20 ACCEPT A BRIBE.
Deuteronomy=20 10:17

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:33=20 = PM
69=20 .  These will make war = with the=20 Lamb, and the Lamb (Jesus)
will overcome=20 them, for He is Lord of lords and King of = kings,=20

and those who are with Him =
(the=20 Christians) are
called, chosen, and = faithful."=20
Revelation 17:14 NKJ

And He has = on His=20 robe and on His thigh a name written: =

KING=20 OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Revelation = 19:16=20 NKJ

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:27=20 = PM
70=20 .  Douglas: The man of = sin, the=20 son of perdition is Jesus...
LET NO ONE=20 DECEIVE YOU BY ANY MEANS FOR THAT DAY WILL = NOT=20 COME

UNLESS THE FALLING AWAY COMES = FIRST,=20 (from Christianity)

AND THE MAN OF = SIN IS=20 REVEALED,
THE SON OF = PERDITION.

WHO=20 OPPOSES AND EXALT HIMSELF ABOVE ALL THAT = IS CALLED=20 GOD OR THAT IS WORSHIPED,

SO THAT = HE=20 (Jesus) SITS AS GOD
IN THE TEMPLE OF=20 GOD,

SHOWING HIMSELF THAT HE IS = GOD.
2=20 Thess 2:3-4

IN THE CHRISTIAN=20 BIBLE.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:24=20 = PM
71=20 .  But generations = later, people=20 began to consider...
THE COPPER=20 SNAKE INDEPENDENT FROM GOD.

THEY = STARTED TO=20 WORSHIP IT AS A SEPARATE POWER.

And = as=20 Moses lifted up the serpent
in the = wilderness,=20

even so must the Son of Man be = lifted up,=20

that whoever believes in Him = should not=20 perish but have eternal life.
John = 3:14-15=20 NKJ

You were lured and=20 brainwashed.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:09=20 = PM
72=20 .  Malik Shaw: You = should follow=20 God with perfect faith...
Israels=20 destiny is far above anyone''s ability to = harm=20 them.

The copper snake that God = commanded=20 Moses
to make in Numbers = 21:4-9:

The=20 intention was that when a person was = bitten by a=20 venomous snake, he would look at the = copper snake=20 and remember God.

He would then = pray to=20 God and repent and be healed. The copper = snake=20 brought people closer to God. =

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 9:05=20 = PM
73=20 .  Rich: THERE IS NO = KINGDOM OF=20 HEAVEN - IN REALITY.
IT = ONLY EXIST=20 IN THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF THE NEW=20 = TESTAMENT.




 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/19/2007=20 8:49=20 = PM
74=20 .  INRI CRISTO The King = of the=20 Kings
The Messiah=20 born in Brazil in 1948.He didn''t have = teachers,=20 because he is Theo didactic.After the age = of 12 he=20 left home under the order of a stronger = Voice=20 inside his head.In 1979 at age of 30 The = LORD GOD=20 of Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and = revealed=20 his identity as the same Messiah crucified = two=20 thousand years ago. The symbol of his = church has=20 the ark of Noah, The star of David and the = cross=20 of christ.He did a revolution in = Bel=C3=A9m of Par=C3=A1 in=20 Brazil in 1982 broking the his image in = the=20 crucifix telling the people that his the = Messiah=20 that was crucified 2000 years ago.
In = 2000 hes=20 was recognized as INRI CRISTO by Brazilian = law in=20 Curitiba capital of Paran=C3=A1.Since 2006 = he lives in=20 Brasilia capital of Brazil - the new = Jerusalem.=20 More details: www.inricristo.org.br=20
 
Douglas   11/17/2007=20 10:46=20 = PM
75=20 .  Who are they
Moses raises=20 the Serpent in the wilderness, who is that = serpant, are they those who call themelves = Jews=20 today, those who migrated fromt he Causas=20 mountains and converted to Judiasm.=20
 
Malik = Shaw   11/16/2007=20 4:52=20 = PM
76=20 .  Yeshua is Messiah... =
Think ! Would=20 a False Messiah teach rightiousness and = humility?=20 would a demon posessed man say:

" = Think=20 not that I am come to destroy the law, or = the=20 prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to = fulfill.

For verily I say unto = you, Till=20 heaven and earth pass, one jot or one = tittle shall=20 in no wise pass from the law, till all be=20 fulfilled.

Whosoever therefore = shall break=20 one of these least commandments, and shall = teach=20 men so, he shall be called the least in = the=20 kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do = and=20 teach them, the same shall be called great = in the=20 kingdom of heaven. "
(Matt 5-17-20) All = of this=20 speaks for = itself.


 
Rich -=20 Cleveland   11/15/2007=20 9:23=20 = PM
77=20 .  THE JEWISH PEOPLE = ARE CHOSEN=20 TO BE TEACHERS OF THE TORAH
AND PROTECTORS=20 OF THE TORAH.

THE JEWIS PEOPLE ARE = CHOSEN=20 TO BE SERVANTS OF HASHEM,

THE = JEWISH PEOPLE=20 ARE CHOSEN TO BE A LIGHT
UNTO THE=20 NATIONS.

A PEOPLE, WHO IS TO REGARD = NO MAN=20 AS GOD.

AND TO HOLD OUT THE PATH =
OF=20 RIGHTEOUSNESS,

TO ALL OF=20 HUMANITY.

THE SOURCE OF ALL BASIC = MORAL=20 STANDARDS IN THE WESTERN WORLD ARE JEWISH=20 CONCEPTS,

COMING FROM = SINAI.

TORAH=20 MEANS INSTRUCTION, IT IS GODS INSTRUCTION = TO=20 MANKIND -

GIVEN FOR US TO KNOW, HOW = TO LIVE=20 AND HOW TO BEHAVE.

THE CHRISTIAN=20 THOUGHT:

The Word became a human = being and=20 lived with us,
and we saw his = Sh''khinah,=20

the Sh''khinah of the Father''s = only Son,=20 full of grace and truth.
John 1:14 = CJB

-=20 IS JUST BULLSHIT!

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 2:23=20 = PM
78=20 .  MESSIANIC "RABBIS," = MANY OF=20 WHOM ARE JEWISH BY BIRTH,
ARE COMMITTED=20 TO BRING THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO KNOW=20 JESUS.

THEIR AGENDA IS TO MAKE = CHRISTIANITY=20 MORE PALATABLE TO THE UNEDUCATED = JEW.

AND=20 TO THE ASTONISHMENT AND HORROR OF THE = JEWISH=20 COMMUNITY,

THEIR MARKETING PLOYS = ARE=20 PROVING TO BE=20 = SUCCESSFUL.

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/evangelize1.html
 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 2:02=20 = PM
79=20 .  MESSIANIC SYNAGOGUES = ARE=20 DESIGNED TO APPEAR JEWISH,
BUT THEY ARE=20 ACTUALLY FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN=20 CHURCHES,

WHICH USE TRADITIONAL = JEWISH=20 SYMBOLS TO LURE

THE MOST VULNERABLE = OF OUR=20 JEWISH PEOPLE
INTO THEIR=20 RANKS.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 1:59=20 = PM
80=20 .  "I know your works = and where=20 you dwell, where Hasatan''s...
THRONE IS.=20

You hold firmly to my name, =
and=20 didn''t deny my faith,

even in the = days of=20 Antipas* my witness, my faithful one, =

WHO=20 WAS KILLED AMONG YOU
WHERE HASATAN = DWELLS.=20
Revelation 2:13

*Who this = Antipas was=20 we cannot tell. We only know
that he = was a=20 Christian.

From The Adam Clarke=20 Commentary

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 1:48=20 = PM
81=20 .  Behold, I give of = the=20 synagogue of Hasatan, of those...
WHO SAY THEY=20 ARE YEHUDIM, AND THEY ARE NOT, BUT=20 LIE.

Behold, I will make them* to = come and=20 worship before your feet,
and to know = that I=20 have loved you.
Revelation = 3:9

*Show=20 them to be, of the synagogue of Satan, =
who say=20 they are Jews,

pretending thereby = to be of=20 the synagogue of GOD,

and = consequently his=20 true and peculiar children.

From = The Adam=20 Clarke Commentary

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 1:41=20 = PM
82=20 .  The blasphemy of = them which=20 say they are Jews:
THERE WERE=20 PERSONS THERE WHO PROFESSED = JUDAISM,

AND=20 HAD A SYNAGOGUE IN THE PLACE, AND = PROFESSED
TO=20 WORSHIP THE TRUE GOD,

BUT THEY HAD = NO=20 GENUINE RELIGION,

AND THEY SERVED = THE DEVIL=20 RATHER THAN GOD.

THEY APPLIED A = SACRED NAME=20 TO AN UNHOLY THING:

AND THIS IS ONE = MEANING=20 OF THE WORD BLASPHEMY IN THIS = BOOK.

From=20 The Adam Clarke = Commentary

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 1:36=20 = PM
83=20 .  Malik Shah: "I know = your=20 oppression, and your poverty...
(but you are=20 rich),

AND THE BLASPHEMY OF THOSE = WHO SAY=20 THEY ARE YEHUDIM,

AND THEY ARE NOT, = BUT ARE=20 A SYNAGOGUE OF HASATAN.
Revelation 2:9=20 HNV

WHO SAY THEY ARE YEHUDIM, AND = THEY ARE=20 NOT?

- THEY WHO CALL THEMSELVES = MESSIANIC=20 JEWS, THE JESUS = BELIEVERS.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/14/2007=20 1:30=20 = PM
84=20 .  Chosen People
How can Jews=20 be the chosen people when Jesus who Jew''s = don''t=20 believ in, says in Revelations that they = are the=20 synagoge f Satan and they are liars and = murderers.=20 Don''t get mad at me, its in Revelations.=20 Incidently thier history does reflect = this.=20
 
Malik = Shah   11/13/2007=20 9:50=20 = PM
85=20 .  The Mesias...
Is = Interesting=20 that a Jewish Ribi assept that Yeshua is = Mashiaj=20 but he is not the only. The Judaism for = centuries=20 hide many opinions of people who believe = that=20 personalities were the Messiah. Rabi Akiba = was one=20 of those Ribi who believe in a Messiah = (Baarcovba)=20 and Rabi Schneerson in New York was = another but in=20 our times. The problem is, in my opinion = that you=20 can''t teach about a Meshiah who was G-d = because=20 we, the jews just believe in one G-d = HaShem. So=20 teachings like the Trinity and the Worship = to=20 Jesus make jews believe that this Jesus = are not=20 the correct Messiah. Is not a problem with = the=20 Judaism is a problem with the Christianity = because=20 they was the people who teach all this = false=20 things about the Rebe Yeshua Ha Mashiaj. I = don''t=20 believe in the Christian Jesus because = this Jesus=20 came to be G-d, I believe in the real one = Yeshua=20 Ha Mashiaj my Mesiah.

Baruj HaShem=20
 
Anonimous   11/13/2007=20 2:19=20 = PM
86=20 .  The Messiah is among = us - INRI=20 CRISTO
INRI was born=20 in Santa Catarina - Brazil, on March 22nd = 1948.=20 Since childhood obeys a powerful voice = inside his=20 head. When INRI first fasted in Santiago, = Chile,=20 in 1979, the voice revealed to be the GOD = of=20 Abraham, of Isaac and of Jacob, and = revealed his=20 identity as the same Messiah crucified two = thousand years ago. Ever since, INRI has = endured=20 debauch and rejection of many people for=20 sustaining his identity and freely binding = human=20 beings to his FATHER, LORD and GOD, = teaching the=20 path of the divine law. INRI had the = official=20 recognition of his identity on October = 2000. INRI=20 and his disciples live in Brasilia, the = New=20 Jerusalem. More about INRI CRISTO:=20 www.inricristo.org.br
 
Aderexi = Schmidt   11/11/2007=20 2:22=20 = AM
87=20 .  God''s one and only = NAME!
www.thename.ph=20
 
jing = viloria   11/10/2007=20 1:34=20 = AM
88=20 .  666 beast revealed =
At = Remnantofyhwh.com truth is stranger than = fiction.=20
 
Michael   11/8/2007=20 7:59=20 = AM
89=20 .  666 beast revealed =
At = Remnantofyhwh.com truth is stranger than = fiction.=20
 
Michael   11/8/2007=20 7:58=20 = AM
90=20 .  Notice connection = between=20 killing & destorying Y H''s Image
Genesis 9:6,=20 6Whoso sheddeth man''s blood, by man shall = his=20 blood be shed: for in the image of God = made he man=20 (Adam).

The importance and = emphasis is on=20 the original image Y H d (Adam) and the = holiness=20 of it and the need to keep it alive. See = how=20 killing is connected with destroying the = image=20 that Y H intendend and how this act is a = violation=20 of that which is most holy. The context = shows the=20 importance of passing on the seed of the = original=20 image of Y H. That original image/the seed = was=20 changed when Adam & Eve sinned. Their = seed was=20 = changed.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/7/2007=20 6:43=20 = PM
91=20 .  Bereshit 9, Doesn''t = say=20 Adam''s decendants are in Y H''s imag
True Adam was=20 made in Y H''s image. Genesis 9:6 does not = say=20 that his decendants are born in Y H''s = image, just=20 Adam. Read it, don''t read into=20 = it.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/7/2007=20 6:35=20 = PM
92=20 .  Bereshit 5, True = Adam was made=20 in Y H''s image
True Adam was=20 made in Y H''s image. Genesis 9:6 does not = say=20 that his decendants are born in Y H''s = image, just=20 Adam. Read it, don''t read into=20 = it.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/7/2007=20 6:34=20 = PM
93=20 .  Phil: And I say to = you - that=20 many will come...
from east and=20 west, and sit down
with Abraham, = Isaac, and=20 Jacob

IN THE KINGDOM OF = HEAVEN.
Matthew=20 8:11

THERE WILL BE WEEPING AND =
GNASHING=20 OF TEETH,

WHEN YOU - CHRISTIANS = &=20 MOSLEMS

SEE ABRAHAM AND ISAAC AND = JACOB=20 AND ALL THE PROPHETS

IN THE = KINGDOM OF=20 GOD

AND YOURSELVES TRUST = OUT

They=20 will come from the east
and the west, = from the=20 north
and the south, and sit down =

IN=20 THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Luke=20 13:28,29

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   11/7/2007=20 2:36=20 = PM
94=20 .  Question
what if i=20 suspect That i might be the messiah and = not even=20 know it?
 
Dell   11/5/2007=20 2:06=20 = PM
95=20 .  You have got to be = kidding=20
All of you are=20 totally insane - you do realize that, = don''t you?=20 It would make more sense to worship a = flying bowl=20 of spaghetti than what you do. YOU (all,=20 christain, muslim, jew, pagan, hindu, = etc..) are=20 the problem with this world and the reason = pain=20 and suffering haunt us all. I hope you all = burn in=20 your respecitve hells. =
 
Chaos   11/4/2007=20 11:42=20 = PM
96=20 .  You have got to be = kidding=20
All of you are=20 totally insane - you do realize that, = don''t you?=20 It would make more sense to worship a = flying bowl=20 of spaghetti than what you do. YOU (all,=20 christain, muslim, jew, pagan, hindu, = etc..) are=20 the problem with this world and the reason = pain=20 and suffering haunt us all. I hope you all = burn in=20 your respecitve hells. =
 
Chaos   11/4/2007=20 11:36=20 = PM
97=20 .  Ken
Your facile=20 claim that Gen. 5 shows that man was no = longer in=20 =E2=80=9Cb=E2=80=99tzelem Elokim=E2=80=9D = after the expulsion from Gan=20 Eiden is fully disproven by Gen. 9:6. = Moreover,=20 the very verses you are using (5:1-3) are=20 interpreted by our continuous mesorah = mi-Sinai as=20 evidence that Shet, as begotten in = Adam=E2=80=99s image,=20 was therefore begotten in the = =E2=80=9Cb=E2=80=99tzelem Elokim=E2=80=9D=20 (see the Ramban to 5:3, for ex.) =E2=80=93 = quite the=20 opposite of your claim =E2=80=93 whom = should we believe:=20 our continuous mesorah mi-Sinai or your=20 =E2=80=9Cjohny-come-lately=E2=80=9D = speculations?
 
Medini   11/2/2007=20 6:51=20 = PM
98=20 .  Bereshit 5, Adam NO = longer=20 produces Seed in Y H''s image
That is why=20 Yeshua the Messiah had to come to restore = our=20 flesh so taht we can once again produce = seed in Y=20 H''s image and come back into relationship = with=20 Him in Gan=20 = Eden.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/2/2007=20 4:38=20 = PM
99=20 .  After the Flesh is = Restored=20 then eat of the Tree of Life
Eating of the=20 Tree of Life in our fallen corruptible = flesh would=20 be a terrible fate. First, Yeshua the = Messiah=20 COVERS us with His Incorruptible flesh, = then we=20 Eat of the Tree of Life and live forever. = To eat=20 of it before having our flesh restored = would be a=20 terrible everlasting judgement. That is = why we=20 were banished from the Gan=20 = Eden.
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/2/2007=20 4:35=20 = PM
100=20 .  The Right Hand of = Moses-Fallen=20 Flesh Restored
As = Moshe''s=20 right hand is put to his bosom and brought = out=20 leperous and then put back again to his = bosum and=20 brought forth again, healthy flesh. This = is what=20 Yeshua the Messiah does for us, restoring = YHWH''s=20 image in our flesh. There is no redemption = if the=20 fallen flesh from Gan Eden is not=20 = restored.
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/2/2007=20 4:32=20 = PM
101=20 .  The Rest of My = Comments
Finally, the=20 innuendo that hand written documents of = Rav Kaduri=20 examined by the author of this Israel = Today story=20 are indicative of Christian inclinations = on the=20 part of the Rav is complete NONSENSE. As = Rav David=20 Kaduri told the author, the supposed = =E2=80=9Ccrosses=E2=80=9D are=20 angelic symbols having nothing to do with = JC or=20 Christianity. If you don=E2=80=99t believe = him, just look=20 at these sources and you will see such = signs as=20 specially attributed to different angels: = Even=20 HaShoham 175b and Shoshan Yesod Olam=20 1727).

It is time to stop all the = innuendo=20 and deception, and no longer desecrate the = memory=20 of our holy Rav, zts=E2=80=9Dl by = connecting him to your=20 idolatrous and unholy=20 religion.

 
Medini   11/2/2007=20 3:09=20 = PM
102=20 .  Yet more of my = comment
Now, look at=20 the spelling of =E2=80=9CYehoshua=E2=80=9D = in the recently=20 revealed note =E2=80=93 it is an unusual = spelling from=20 Tanach in that it contains two = =E2=80=9Cvavs=E2=80=9D, the second=20 one as a shuruq vowel in a place (after = the=20 =E2=80=9Cshin=E2=80=9D) where the more = common spelling lacks the=20 =E2=80=9Cvav=E2=80=9D and simply has a = qubbuts vowel. The second=20 =E2=80=9Cvav=E2=80=9D is an added letter = that does not change the=20 pronunciation. Thus, the = =E2=80=9Cname=E2=80=9D Yehoshua in the=20 supposed note by Rav Kaduri is NOT a = reference to=20 the name of the =E2=80=9Csoul of = Mashiach=E2=80=9D but is=20 IRREFUTABLY the name of the living human = being to=20 whom the =E2=80=9Csoul of = Mashiach=E2=80=9D has attached itself.=20 Thus, unless you Christians are prepared = to=20 acknowledge that a living human being in = Israel=20 today is JC, the = =E2=80=9CYehoshua=E2=80=9D note attributed to Rav=20 Kaduri simply CANNOT refer to JC at=20 all.

Finally, the innuendo that = hand=20 written documents of Rav Kaduri examined = by the=20 author of this Israel Today story are = indicative=20 of Christian inclinations on the part of = the Rav=20 is complete NONSENSE. As Rav David Kaduri = told the=20 author, the suppos
 
Medini   11/2/2007=20 3:08=20 = PM
103=20 .  More of what was cut = off in=20 prev. comment
The question=20 then becomes whether the = =E2=80=9Cname=E2=80=9D Yehoshua in the=20 recently published note is the name of the = =E2=80=9Csoul=20 of Mashiach=E2=80=9D, hence being amenable = to Christian=20 use, or is the name of the living human = being to=20 whom the =E2=80=9Csoul of = Mashiach=E2=80=9D has attached itself,=20 in which case the =E2=80=9Cname=E2=80=9D = absolutely CANNOT be a=20 reference to the Christian messiah/god = unless you=20 Christians wish to maintain that a human = being=20 currently living in Israel is JC - a = theologically=20 untenable thesis for you Christians, no?=20

So, how do we determine which it = is? A=20 careful look at the previous statements = attributed=20 to Rav Kaduri, zts=E2=80=9Dl, shows that = the living human=20 being to whom the =E2=80=9Csoul of = Mashiach=E2=80=9D has attached=20 itself will have an extra letter = =E2=80=9Cvav=E2=80=9D added to=20 his name without changing the = pronunciation of his=20 name, showing the presence of that extra = soul (see=20 above link).

Now, look at the = spelling of=20 =E2=80=9CYehoshua=E2=80=9D in the recently = revealed note =E2=80=93 it is=20 an unusual spelling from Tanach in that it = contains two =E2=80=9Cvavs=E2=80=9D, the = second one as=20
 
Medini   11/2/2007=20 3:06=20 = PM
104=20 .  Stop the innuendo = and=20 deception
Rav Kaduri,=20 zts"l had nothing to do with Christianity = or JC as=20 Mashiach.

First off, it is by no = means=20 clear that this document was ever written = by the=20 Rav - even his son says it couldn''t have = been.=20

Second, even if it was written by = the Rav,=20 it MUST be seen in the context of a whole = host of=20 other statements attributed to him by the = SAME=20 source which initially released the = document in=20 question =E2=80=93 namely, Yehoshua=20 Meiri/kaduri.net.

When seen in this = CONTEXT=20 - remember Christians to STOP taking our = sources=20 out of context (I know it is hard since = your NT=20 does it so often, but it is a false = methodology) -=20 it is clear that even if the Rav wrote it, = it has=20 NOTHING to do with the Christian "savior". = Here is=20 why:

Y. Meiri previously released=20 statements he attributed to Rav Kaduri, = zts=E2=80=9Dl,=20 that indicated that the soul of Mashiach = had=20 attached itself to a human being living in = present=20 day Israel=20 = (www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=3D91417).=20

The question then becomes whether=20
 
Medini   11/2/2007=20 3:04=20 = PM
105=20 .  "..THERE IS NONE = BESIDE ME..."=20
ISAIAH 45:=20 21Tell ye, and bring them near yea, let = them take=20 counsel together: who hath declared this = from=20 ancient time? who hath told it from that = time?=20 have not I the LORD? and there is no God = else=20 beside me a just God and a Saviour there = is none=20 beside me.=20 =

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm

=
 
kEN   11/1/2007=20 5:37=20 = PM
106=20 .  SHEMA-THERE CAN ONLY = BE ONE=20 & THERE IS ONLY ONE
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/1/2007=20 5:34=20 = PM
107=20 .  Yeshua is the Right = Hand of=20 YHWH
"The Father=20 and I are ONE"...when will we figure out = he=20 wasn''t=20 = kidding?

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm
He=20 wept that Jerusalem did not know the time = of their=20 visitiation or when YHWH would come to HIS = temple.=20
 
Ken   11/1/2007=20 5:29=20 = PM
108=20 .  Mikva/Baptism is = being Born=20 Again w/Yeshua''s Flesh
We = must preach=20 Yeshau and His FLESH cruxcified for US. We = must=20 become one Flesh with the Image of YHWH,=20 = Yeshua.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/1/2007=20 5:27=20 = PM
109=20 .  Rod becomes Alive, = Rod makes=20 bitter water sweet
Rod makes=20 diseased Flesh Inocrruptible. Mikva is the = Womb of=20 Life, born again with Yeshua Incorruptible = Flesh.=20 Just as Eve is one Flesh with Adam, we = become one=20 Flesh with Yeshua,=20 = litterally.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/1/2007=20 5:25=20 = PM
110=20 .  Signs of Moses are = Signs of=20 Yeshua, Diseased Flesh now Whole
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   11/1/2007=20 5:22=20 = PM
111=20 .  Catholic Church
Catholic=20 Church Is the Great Whore that is spoken = of in=20 Revelation. Catholic Church is a = anti-christ not=20 the Man Anti-Christ that will sit in the = 3rd=20 Temple and be an abomination of desolation = in the=20 End Times or End of Days. =
 
dd = 10/31/07   11/1/2007=20 10:04=20 = AM
112=20 .  Jesus The Perfect = Sacrifice=20
No = One is=20 Perfect and can keep the 10 commandments=20 perfectly, Jesus is the sacrifice made = once and=20 for all for our sins to be covered the = blood of=20 goats and lambs can no longer cover our = sins.God=20 required a perfect sacrifice so he came = down from=20 heaven in the form of a man Jesus Christ = his son=20 put on flesh because God is Spirit, Jesus = is God=20 made flesh and blood for we had no way = back to God=20 but through Jesus'' death and resurrection = from=20 the dead and paid the price that man could = not and=20 reconciled us to him the Father God. Jesus = is=20 sitting at the right hand of the Father=20 interceding for us our high priest in the = most=20 holy place the Holy Spirit was sent to = live in us=20 to enable us to live out the commandments = of God a=20 holy and righteous life before man and = God. We are=20 made right with God through the sacrifice = of Jesus=20 his righteousness and holiness is given to = believers as a gift we do not earn it. = Believers=20 in Jesus die to our selfish sinful ways = and deny=20 ourselves, turn from our wicked ways and = take on=20 Je
 
dd = 10/31/07   11/1/2007=20 9:59=20 = AM
113=20 .  Israel Gods Chosen = People
The False=20 Messiah will rise the Jews will be looking = for=20 this Messiah to fulfill their requirements = of who=20 Messiah is to them only to find out they = will be=20 accepting the Anti-Christ the man 666 = "False=20 Messiah" bring a false peace and building = of the=20 3rd temple and re-establishing what was = lost in=20 destruction of the 2nd temple. But God = will=20 establish a new covenant with them Israel = and open=20 their eyes and ears and reveal the truth = about the=20 true Messiah and they will (Israel) be an = ensign=20 to the nations that Jesus Christ is the = true=20 Messiah of the World and every knee shall = bow and=20 tongue confess that he is Lord of All!!! = There=20 will be a new heaven and new earth and the = New=20 Jerusalem will descend from heaven and = Satan the=20 Beast(Anti-Christ) and False Prophet will = burn in=20 the lake of fire forever, and so shall the = remnant=20 of Israel and the saints be with the Lord = God=20 forever, and ever. AMEN =
 
dd = 10/31/07   11/1/2007=20 9:29=20 = AM
114=20 .  Osiris =3D Egyptian = GOD=20 "Paganism"
Osiris was the=20 Egyptian god of the underworld, although = he was=20 also worshipped as a fertility, = resurrection, and=20 vegetation god. He was married to Isis, a = sky=20 goddess. He was father to Horus, the god = of sky,=20 and protector of the dead.

One of = the "no=20 other Gods Before Me" Gods of Egypt = Paganism=20
 
dd = 10/31/07   11/1/2007=20 9:06=20 = AM
115=20 .  Gamaliel
Two thousand=20 years later some folk are still fighting = against=20 God.

Quote Gamaliel,
Found in: = NT=20 KJV
Acts 5:38-40 And now I say unto = you,=20 Refrain from these men, and let
them = alone:=20 for if this counsel or this work be of = men, it=20 will come to
nought: 39 But if it be = of God,=20 ye cannot overthrow it lest haply ye be =
found=20 even to fight against God. 40 And to him = they=20 agreed:...

Ye have not overthrown=20 Christianity in over two thousand years, = so=20
according to Gamaliel it must be of = God.=20
 
grayeagle   10/31/2007=20 6:26=20 = PM
116=20 .  Gamaliel
Two thousand=20 years later some folk are still fighting = against=20 God.

Quote Gamaliel,
Found in: = NT=20 KJV
Acts 5:38-40 And now I say unto = you,=20 Refrain from these men, and let
them = alone:=20 for if this counsel or this work be of = men, it=20 will come to
nought: 39 But if it be = of God,=20 ye cannot overthrow it lest haply ye be =
found=20 even to fight against God. 40 And to him = they=20 agreed:...

Ye have not overthrown=20 Christianity in over two thousand years, = so=20
according to Gamaliel it must be of = God.=20
 
grayeagle   10/31/2007=20 6:25=20 = PM
117=20 .  Ticket To Heaven =
http://home.earthlink.net/~tickettoheaven/TicketToHeaven2007= B.pdf=20
 
Mark = Miller   10/31/2007=20 6:08=20 = PM
118=20 .  Gamaliel
Two thousand=20 years later some folk are still fighting = against=20 God.

Quote Gamaliel,
Found in: = NT=20 KJV
Acts 5:38-40 And now I say unto = you,=20 Refrain from these men, and let
them = alone:=20 for if this counsel or this work be of = men, it=20 will come to
nought: 39 But if it be = of God,=20 ye cannot overthrow it lest haply ye be =
found=20 even to fight against God. 40 And to him = they=20 agreed:...

Ye have not overthrown=20 Christianity in over two thousand years, = so=20
according to Gamaliel it must be of = God.=20
 
grayeagle   10/31/2007=20 6:07=20 = PM
119=20 .  correction
Sorry=20 folks
AHS is=20 here
ourchurch.com/member/a/ahs/=20
 
grayeagle   10/31/2007=20 5:43=20 = PM
120=20 .  Mikva-Why we need = the Flesh=20 (Literally) of Messiah
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/31/2007=20 2:48=20 = PM
121=20 .  Yeshua =3D Osiris =
Jeshua is most=20 probably a hebrew form of Osiris. If the = Rabbi''s=20 statement was indeed his, I take it to = mean that=20 the next messiah will take the form of = osiris,=20 someone who is a servant of the people who = would=20 die to set them free. So he probably = wasn''t=20 referring to the 1st century jesus, per = se. That=20 person was also an Osiris type. A messiah = is=20 living person so that leaves historical=20 individuals and gods (Sorry Lord!) out of = the=20 picture.

Rather he was suggesting = that=20 someone like Osiris, who serves the people = and=20 "conquers" death in a spiritual sense, = will be the=20 next messiah. That person will be an = Osiris type,=20 a savior not a destroyer. =
 
Eddie = Larry   10/31/2007=20 4:39=20 = AM
122=20 .  INRI CRISTO LOL
hahaha INRI=20 CRISTO this dude is classic. He even wears = a crown=20 of towling shaped like = thorns.

Check out=20 this Christ wannabe=20 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vissarion

I=20 wonder what the different species on other = planets=20 believe in?
 
Darren   10/30/2007=20 8:02=20 = PM
123=20 .  Judah in the Older = Brother of=20 the Prodigal son
Ephriam in=20 diaspora is the Prodigal son that Yeshua = the lamb=20 has made clean so he can return=20 = home.

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/29/2007=20 2:06=20 = PM
124=20 .  Why Judah in the = Land is Blind=20 to Yeshua
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/29/2007=20 2:05=20 = PM
125=20 .  Why Israel in = Diaspora is=20 blind to Torah
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/29/2007=20 2:04=20 = PM
126=20 .  Yasuha Lives # 17 =
Yes we were=20 born with a sin nature
and when we = receive=20 Jesus Christ as
Lord we receive his = divine=20 nature.
2 Pet 1:4. Because hes in us as = us.
We are only the container.
He is = the=20 life.
We are saved by his life in us =
Rom=20 5:10.
No where in the OT or the NT = does it say=20 "You have a nature of your own."
We = live by the=20 life of another in us.
Thank God for = Jesus=20 Christ who is our life Col 3:4.
"Christ = in you=20 the hope of glory"
Col 1:27.
Robert=20
 
Robert   10/29/2007=20 3:22=20 = AM
127=20 .  Christian vs = Catholic
I = was raised=20 Catholic but became a born again Christian = 11=20 years and let me tell all you Catholics = out there,=20 there is a VERY big difference. As a = Catholic, I=20 was the biggest sinner and thought nothing = about=20 what I did. That is religion. I thought I = was=20 going to heaven just because my PARENTS = had water=20 sprinkled on my forehead as an infant. I = thought=20 my sins where forgiven every time I went = to=20 confession. I am here to tell all you = Catholics=20 that if you have not excepted Jesus as = your Lord=20 and Savior, which means He saves you from = your=20 sins, become born again which means a new = spirit=20 is given to you, you are going straight to = HELL=20 when you take your last breath. NOT = pergitory=20 which does not exist. Tell me where that = is at in=20 the Bible. Man cannot save you or forgive = your=20 sins, water sprinkled on your forehead = does not=20 save you and being a good person and doing = good=20 deeds does not save you. Jesus says that = He is the=20 way, truth and the light, NOBODY comes to = ME but=20 through the FATHER which is God. That=20
 
Angel   10/29/2007=20 2:10=20 = AM
128=20 .  False Messiah
Everyone=20 should know that the flase messiah will = appear in=20 the Illegal state of Israel.

So = your saying=20 that Jesus condones the murdering and = displacement=20 of Palestians?


Jesus the all = powerfull=20 will need Fox, and Cnn to talk to = us.

Go=20 fuck yourself really.
 
rABBI   10/28/2007=20 3:44=20 = PM
129=20 .  False Messiah
Everyone=20 should know that the flase messiah will = appear in=20 the Illegal state of Israel.

So = your saying=20 that Jesus condones the murdering and = displacement=20 of Palestians?


Jesus the all = powerfull=20 will need Fox, and Cnn to talk to = us.

Go=20 fuck yourself really.
 
rABBI   10/28/2007=20 3:44=20 = PM
130=20 .  Jesus is not 666 =
Why would=20 Jesus tell John about the number of the = beast, if=20 He were that beast? A beast in biblical = prophecy=20 is a kingdom or government, not a person. = The=20 number of the beast is a number of a man,=20 specifically the pope. This has been well=20 demonstrated by Protestants for centuries. =
 
Joseph   10/28/2007=20 5:38=20 = AM
131=20 .  Response to 3rd day = problem=20
Jesus was=20 crucified on Wednesday at 3 pm, and buried = just=20 before sunset that same day. His body lay = in the=20 tomb the 5th day of the week (beginning = Wednesday=20 evening ending Thursday just before = evening), the=20 6th day (beginning Thursday evening ending = Friday=20 just before evening), and the 7th day = (beginning=20 Friday evening ending Saturday just before = evening). This adds up to 3 nights and 3 = days,=20 fulfilling his prophecy of the sign of=20 Jonah.

We know the crucifixion must = have=20 been on Wednesday because that was the day = before=20 the special Sabbath of the Passover, not = the=20 Friday before the weekly Sabbath, which by = the way=20 should still be observed by Christians=20 today.

For a very detailed = explanation of=20 this perspective visit:=20 = http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/threeday.html

By=20 the way, while there are righteous = Catholics, the=20 system of Roman Catholicism is the work of = Satan.=20 Everything they have done has fulfilled = the=20 prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. Just = like=20 they changed the Sabbath to S =
 
Joseph   10/28/2007=20 5:35=20 = AM
132=20 .  Messiah is a = foreigner, a=20 Filipino
Correction=20 about the website, should be: = www.thename.ph=20
 
jing = viloria   10/28/2007=20 5:24=20 = AM
133=20 .  Messiah is a = foreigner, a=20 Filipino
Fullfilment of=20 the Book of Revelation- One God, One = People, One=20 Nation visit the website www.thename.com=20
 
jing = viloria   10/28/2007=20 5:17=20 = AM
134=20 .  jesus is 666 beast =
proof at=20 remnantofyhwh.com
 
mike   10/28/2007=20 4:51=20 = AM
135=20 .  Father Yahweh has = established=20 His House!
The prophets=20 wrote that in the Last Days Father Yahweh = would=20 establish His House to teach His people = His=20 ways.
That time is NOW His House is=20 = here.

http://www.yahweh.com

Okieshowedem=20
 
Okieshowedem   10/28/2007=20 4:24=20 = AM
136=20 .  Salvation Comes From = The Jews=20
As = a=20 practicing Roman Catholic I would like to = add some=20 thoughts. Pope John Paul II has said that = the=20 Jews'' waiting for the Messiah is not in = vain. He=20 also said the obvious that Jews are the = elder=20 brothers of Roman Catholics in the faith. = Jesus,=20 his disciples, his mother, etc were pious=20 practicing Jews. In the New Testament = Jesus said=20 that He came not to destroy the Law, but = to=20 fulfill it. He also said not one jot or = tittle of=20 the Law will be removed. The Bible says I = will=20 bless those who bless you (meaning Israel) = and I=20 will curse those who curse you. With all = her=20 enemies surrounding Israel, the fact that = she has=20 not been destroyed is proof that the Jews = are=20 still God''s chosen people and will = survive as a=20 nation as long as human history remains. = Thank you=20 for your time and attention,
Stephanie=20
 
Stephanie=20 Padovano   10/27/2007=20 5:03=20 = PM
137=20 .  INRI CRISTO
Inri, the name=20 written by Pilate on the cross of Christ. = Inri=20 Cristo is the reincarnated Christ living = in=20 Brazil, the land of the Holy Cross. Inri = did not=20 know his biological parents and was = brought up by=20 adoptive parents. At 13 yrs he left home = at the=20 insistent voice of his Father the Lord who = spoke=20 within his head. He was unaware of being = the=20 Messiah until age 30 yrs. See website:=20 www.inricristo.org.br
 
Marlene = West   10/26/2007=20 10:50=20 = PM
138=20 .  Rabbi Kaduri''s = Insight
Rabbi=20 Kaduri''''s Insight
Y H is restoring = His image=20 in us and restoring incorruptible flesh as = was in=20 Gan Eden.=20 =

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm

Adam=20 was made in Y H''''s image, but in = Bereshit=20 Chapter 5 Adam no longer produces seed in = Y H''s=20 image, but now in his own fallen image.=20
 
Karl   10/26/2007=20 8:09=20 = PM
139=20 .  Rabbi Kaduri''s = Insight
Y = H is=20 restoring His image in us and restoring=20 incorruptible flesh as was in Gan Eden.=20 =

http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm

Adam=20 d in Y H''s image, but in Bereshit Adam no = longer=20 produces seed in Y H''s image, but now in = his own=20 fallen image.
 
Karl   10/26/2007=20 8:08=20 = PM
140=20 .  He''s not the = messiah
.. = He''s a=20 very naughty boy.

Now stop all this = bible=20 quoting crap and bow down to me. (While = you''re=20 down there -) )
 
I''m the = messiah   10/26/2007=20 6:00=20 = PM
141=20 .  SUCKERS !!
You fell for=20 it. Religion, killing in the name of ....=20
 
Uncle = Slappy=20 Nuts   10/26/2007=20 5:53=20 = PM
142=20 .  Yeshua - Isaiah 53 = cont.
Yet the Lord=20 laid on him
the sins of us = all.

7 He was=20 oppressed and treated harshly,
yet he = never=20 said a word.
He was led like a lamb to = the=20 slaughter.
And as a sheep is silent = before the=20 shearers,
he did not open his = mouth.
8=20 Unjustly condemned,
he was led = away.[b]
No=20 one cared that he died without=20 descendants,
that his life was cut = short in=20 midstream.[c]
But he was struck = down
for the=20 rebellion of my people.
9 He had done = no=20 wrong
and had never deceived = anyone.
But he=20 was buried like a criminal
he was put = in a=20 rich man=E2=80=99s grave.

10 But it = was the Lord=E2=80=99s=20 good plan to crush him
and cause him=20 grief.
Yet when his life is made an = offering=20 for sin,
he will have many = descendants.
He=20 will enjoy a long life,
and the = Lord=E2=80=99s good=20 plan will prosper in his hands.
11 When = he sees=20 all that is accomplished by his = anguish,
he=20 will be satisfied. =
 
Ken = Solstad   10/26/2007=20 5:32=20 = PM
143=20 .  Yeshua - Isaiah 53 =
Isaiah=20 53:1-12
1 Who has believed our = message?
To=20 whom has the Lord revealed his powerful = arm?
2=20 My servant grew up in the Lord=E2=80=99s = presence like a=20 tender green shoot,
like a root in dry=20 ground.
There was nothing beautiful or = majestic=20 about his appearance,
nothing to = attract us to=20 him.
3 He was despised and = rejected=E2=80=94
a man=20 of sorrows, acquainted with deepest = grief.
We=20 turned our backs on him and looked the = other=20 way.
He was despised, and we did not=20 care.

4 Yet it was our weaknesses = he=20 carried
it was our sorrows[a] that = weighed him=20 down.
And we thought his troubles were = a=20 punishment from God,
a punishment for = his own=20 sins!
5 But he was pierced for our=20 rebellion,
crushed for our sins.
He = was=20 beaten so we could be whole.
He was = whipped so=20 we could be healed.
6 All of us, like = sheep,=20 have strayed away.
We have left = God=E2=80=99s paths to=20 follow our own.
Yet the Lord laid on hi =
 
Ken = Solstad   10/26/2007=20 5:27=20 = PM
144=20 .  Yahshua LIVES... =
What many=20 Biblical scholars miss is that Yahshua = died that=20 we, through Him, may have eternal life. As = the=20 Apostle Paul mentions 147 times in his = Epistles,=20 "...Christ IN us, the hope of glory". = (Col.1 27).=20 This great "mystery" was revealed to Paul, = that=20 the SPIRIT of Yahshua would join our = spirit when=20 we become "Born Again". Yahshua is steated = at the=20 right hand of the Father His SPIRIT is IN = those=20 who believe on Him. HE LIVES ETERNAL.=20
 
Lloyd = Dobbs   10/26/2007=20 3:08=20 = PM
145=20 .  Yeshua is a Torah = Observant=20 Jew, not a Roman
If = you read=20 the Brit Hadasha you will see Yeshua kept = the=20 written torah and taught others to do the = same. So=20 did Paul. He even said Moses Testimony was = sufficient for salvation. Moses said = anyone that=20 does not teach the Torah should not be = listened=20 to.=20 =
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
John   10/26/2007=20 12:48=20 = PM
146=20 .  The old sinner was = ashamed of=20 his saviour - like many others
Attributes of=20 Joseph''s dream:

1 He would rule = over his=20 brothers - Gen 37:8
2 He would be the = ruler=20 over even his father and mother - Gen=20 37:10

Result?

Jacob sees the = blood=20 and thinks he is dead
Brothers sell him = to=20 Egypt
Ends up paying for a crime he = didn''t=20 do

Story at this point: Joseph was = a false=20 prophet, his dreams didn''t come true.=20

Next page:

1 The brothers = bow=20 before Joseph
2 Joseph makes himself = know to=20 them
3 Jacob bows before Joseph
4 = Joseph=20 saves the world from famine

- = Joseph says,=20 "Fear not: for am I in the place of God?" = [!!]=20 "But as for you, ye thought evil against = me but=20 God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, = as it is=20 this day, to save much people alive" =
Gen=20 50:20


That is the Lord Jesus = Christ in=20 the story of Joseph.
 
Samuel! = Samuel!   10/26/2007=20 12:25=20 = PM
147=20 .  YOU can dream like = Kaduri
For 2 physical=20 evidences of a second intelligence within=20 yourself- plus VIVID DREAMS onset plus = repeatable=20 handtingles- search YouTube on LAY GNOSIS = 1 BEGIN=20 HERE site truebluehealerDOTcom Agnostic=20 testimonials including doctors from 4 = countries=20
 
Steve in = Sydney   10/26/2007=20 12:12=20 = PM
148=20 .  Jesus Christ The = Messiah
Why is it=20 forbidden to read The Book of Dani=C3=ABl? = He who reads=20 the Book of Dani=C3=ABl is terribly cursed = by the=20 Torah, is it because of the TRUTH?
"And = ye=20 shall know the truth, and the truth shall = set you=20 free"
 
Peter = Clement   10/26/2007=20 11:00=20 = AM
149=20 .  Jesus Christ The = Messiah
The second=20 coming of Jesus Christ will be visible for = ALL=20 HUMANITY not a few.and he will not touch = the=20 ground. That everybody may accept Jesus = Christ as=20 our Saviour jews, christians, buddhists, = hindus=20 etc there is only one way to salvation and = that is=20 through Jesus Christ.
Amen
God Bless =
 
Peter = Clement   10/26/2007=20 10:52=20 = AM
150=20 .  Answer is not in a = book Try=20 LAY GNOSIS
For 2 physical=20 evidences of a second intelligence within=20 yourself-vivid dreams onset plus = repeatable=20 handtingles- search YouTube on LAY GNOSIS = 1 BEGIN=20 HERE site truebluehealerDOTcom Agnostic=20 testimonials including doctors from 4 = countries=20
 
steve in = Sydney   10/26/2007=20 9:02=20 = AM
151=20 .  The Creator''s Name =
It = is=20 surprising how imbecilic Christians the = world over=20 are and other religions are joining them = in their=20 thinking. They call the Creator "God" and = never=20 once did it dawn on them to research the = word god=20 to see truly what it really means. The = Scriptures=20 itself call Satan "the God of this world" = (ll Cor.=20 4:4) If they read the Scriptures, they = would see=20 that the Creator never identifies Himself = as a=20 god. Yahshua His Son never calls Him "God" = but=20 refer to Him as "Father" instead (Matt. 6: = 9-13).=20 The word GOD comes from the Canaanite word = El=20 meaning to be powerful. When the Greek = translated=20 the Scriptures, they took out the Name = Yahweh (the=20 Creator''s Name) and replaced it with the = word=20 Kurios. The Romans then translated Kurios = to=20 Dominus. All these words mean: powerful, = most high=20 and because El was never preceded by the = word Ha=20 (the) these words were later conceived to = be=20 proper names. He said that only His people = will=20 know His Name (Is. 52:6) He also said that = He will=20 only reveal His Name to those who will sub =
 
Yahman   10/26/2007=20 8:33=20 = AM
152=20 .  Messiah
Jesus is here,=20 living in Brazil. He was named Inri = Cristo, a=20 circumcised Jew Inri, the name written on = the=20 cross by Pilate. He was brought by a = midwife to a=20 childless couple in Brazil. He does not = know his=20 biological parents nor did he know that he = was the=20 Messiah until he was 30 yrs. of age. Go to = his=20 website
www.inricristo.org.br =
 
Marlene = West   10/26/2007=20 8:21=20 = AM
153=20 .  The Messiah''s Name =
There is no=20 ''J'' in Hebrew - The Messiah was Hebrew. = There is=20 no ''J'' in Greek - The bible was = translated to=20 the Greek language. The letter ''J'' was = not used=20 in the English language until 1751 CE (2nd = Ed=20 American Heritage Dictionary Page 683 = 1982/85 Ed=20 by Houghton Miffin Co) What was His Name = before=20 1751? Obviously He could not have been = called=20 Jesus (pronounced -Iesous) Moreover the = Messiah=20 Yahshua said that the only sign that would = be=20 given to prove that He is the true Messiah = (not=20 Jesus/Iesous) was the sign of the Prophet = Yahnah=20 (Jonah) who was 3 days and 3 nights in the = belly=20 of the great fish. Likewise He would be in = the=20 grave 3 days and 3 nights (Matt. = 12:39-40). Jesus=20 (Iesous) was in the grave from Good Friday = afternoon to ''Sunday morning'' at = sunrise. Even=20 the dumbest imbecile can see that there is = not 3=20 days and 3 nights in that time frame. Yet=20 Christians the world over claim this Jesus = to be=20 the Messiah. I think that they murdered = the wrong=20 man because he did not prove the sign that = was=20 given. I
 
Yahman   10/26/2007=20 7:28=20 = AM
154=20 .  We are One and the = Same
Just a thought=20 for the day....

Jesus was born a = Jew,
He=20 was raised by a Jewish mother,
He was a = practicing Jew,
He was called a Rabbi = by his=20 own people,
He died as a Jew,
and as = a=20 follower of Jesus, I realized that I am a = deciple=20 of Judaism as revealed by Jesus Christ, ie = a=20 Catholic...are not we one and the same.=20
 
Just = Ron   10/26/2007=20 3:34=20 = AM
155=20 .  The Whole Bible is = for today=20
There is no=20 separation between the Tanach (Old = Testament) and=20 the New Testament. They are 100% = compatible and to=20 be read as one book

Most Orthodox = Jews=20 throw out the O.T. and follow instead the = Talmud=20 which is contrary to the = TORAH.

Most=20 Christians throw out the OT and the TORAH = and=20 believe the Book of Revelations is only = for those=20 "Left Behind".

Both groups are=20 wrong.

The WHOLE Bible is for = today, we are=20 to live according to the TORAH and YESHUA = (JESUS)=20 is the ONLY way to YAHOSHUA (YHWH) The=20 FATHER.

And let me add that = scripture is=20 clear - WE DONT GET OUT OF HERE UNTIL THE = "LAST=20 TRUMP" which means we will go thru = tribulation and=20 hard times BEFORE YESHUA THE MESSIAH=20 returns.

It is time for Jews and = Christians=20 to unite as we are both part of the Olive = branch=20 and brothers in YESHUA (JESUS) and sons of = YAHOSHUA = (YHWH).


 
Bruce = Lee   10/26/2007=20 2:40=20 = AM
156=20 .  Must we persist? =
...In this=20 pointless discussion? Surely the world has = more=20 pressing problems than to worry over such=20 silliness.
 
D. = Stone   10/26/2007=20 1:34=20 = AM
157=20 .  A Jew AND a Roman? = (and a King=20 and a Pharaoh too?)
here''s=20 another plot line that I just throw out = for the=20 fun of it, because they do call him "king = of=20 KINGS" and pin their hopes of a "world" = peace on=20 him, and who better to do that than the = rightful=20 heir to the top political seat in all FOUR = of the=20 dominant civilizations of the = day:

from=20 = http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1614.html

"we=20 appear to be looking into the historical = record=20 for an exiled prince who was of both = Egyptian and=20 Persian descent ... who was influential = enough to=20 make his mark on the history of Judaea, = but=20 obscure enough to be easily lost to most = of real=20 recorded history. ... Strange as it may = seem,=20 there is such a royal family. They were = indeed=20 influential kings and queens, and yet it = is known=20 that they were exiled from their homeland = and=20 settled in an area called Bethanya = [Bethany], near=20 Judaea, in about AD 4. They brought with = them into=20 exile 500 cavalry and 100 relations and = retinue an=20 account which tallies with = Josephus=EF=BF=BD accounts of=20 the biblical family maintaining their=20
 
mrG   10/26/2007=20 12:30=20 = AM
158=20 .  Seeing a Need for = Change
There is no=20 need for "Christians to be dancing and=20 celebrating", because no "christian" is a = true=20 follower of Jesus'' teachings. There is no = need=20 for fellow Jews to claim that Rabbi Kaduri = was a=20 Christian simply because the term = Christian=20 wasn''t established untill the church came = to=20 be..
Do not turn this into a war of=20 terminology, and assumptions. Jesus'' = teachings=20 were nothing more then trying to get = everyone to=20 understand that everyone, not just a = single=20 nation/tribe/race, were Children of God. = Sadly, it=20 was the church that was formed after his = death=20 that perverted these teachings into dogma, = and=20 claimed the name of Christianity...which = is=20 another word for followers of the=20 Messiah..
Jesus was simply a man who = saw a need=20 for change within a community that was = stuck in=20 religion/law, and cutting off their growth = in=20 religious evolution. Can he be considered = a=20 Messiah for this insight/enlightenment..? = Yes, if=20 you consider enlightenment a gift from = God. Does=20 this mean that Rabbi Kaduri saw that Jesus = was t=20
 
Daniel = C.=20 Jaramillo   10/25/2007=20 11:44=20 = PM
159=20 .  true name of messiah =
yeshua is not=20 the name of the messiah it is Yahshua = which means=20 Yahweh is salvation. Furthermore the = christians=20 are also wrong in calling him jesus = because there=20 were no letter j in hebrew nor greek at = the time=20 of the birth of the messiah. in fact the = letter J=20 did not come into the English language = until the=20 sixteenth century. You can verify this in = any=20 library. The name jesus derived from the = greek god=20 Zues who by the way is none other than = Satan=20 herself. Also did you know that satan or = lucifer=20 was one of the creator Yahweh''s wives.=20
 
peaceman613   10/25/2007=20 11:35=20 = PM
160=20 .  Rebekah,Salvation by = Torah???=20
How was our=20 forefather Avraham accounted right, or = saved???=20 Was he not declared right by his = faith/belief?=20 Yes, by faith/belief, and this was 430 = years=20 before TORAH!!!

Torah is = Instruction in=20 Righteousness, and should be followed. It = is how=20 we show our love for YHVH and fellow man!=20 :)

Salvation was always by YHVH''s = GRACE=20 and MERCY through belief/faith in = Mashiyach, the=20 SEED spoken of in Bershith/Genesis 3:15! = The SEED=20 of the women Chavah/Eve, the SEED of = Avraham as=20 promised in Bereshith/Genesis 22, etc... = Yeshua ha=20 Mashiyach can be traced all the way=20 back!!!

Please do NOT let your = traditions=20 keep you from the truth of Mashiyach = Yeshua! I=20 also warn that you do NOT fall for the = Torahless=20 anti-messiah being preached and taught by = 99% of=20 so called "christian=20 = churches"!!!

www.CalledOutServants.com
www.Mashiyach.com
Eliyah=20 Ben Yisrael
 
Eliyah = Ben=20 Yisrael   10/25/2007=20 9:53=20 = PM
161=20 .  Rebekah, how is = Mashiyach cut=20 off?
(Daniel 9:25)=20 =E2=80=9CKnow, then, and understand: from = the going forth=20 of the command to restore and build = Yerushalayim=20 until Messiah the Prince is seven weeks = and=20 sixty-two weeks. It shall be built again, = with=20 streets and a trench, but in times of=20 affliction.

(Daniel 9:26) = =E2=80=9CAnd after the=20 sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be CUT OFF = and have=20 naught. And the people of a coming prince = shall=20 destroy the city and the set-apart place. = And the=20 end of it is with a flood. And wastes are = decreed,=20 and fighting until the end.

(Daniel = 9:27)=20 =E2=80=9CAnd he shall confirm a covenant = with many for one=20 week. And in the middle of the week he = shall put=20 an end to slaughtering and meal offering. = And on=20 the wing of abominations he shall lay = waste, even=20 until the complete end and that which is = decreed=20 is poured out on the one who lays=20 = waste.=E2=80=9D

www.CalledOutServants.com
www.Mashiyach.com
=
Eliyah=20 Ben Yisrael
 
Eliyah = Ben=20 Yisrael   10/25/2007=20 9:44=20 = PM
162=20 .  Yeshua is a Torah = Observant=20 Jew, not a Roman
If = you read=20 the Brit Hadasha you will see Yeshua kept = the=20 written torah and taught others to do the = same. So=20 did Paul. He even said Moses Testimony was = sufficient for salvation. Moses said = anyone that=20 does not teach the Torah should not be = listened=20 to.=20 =
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
John   10/25/2007=20 9:36=20 = PM
163=20 .  The Image of Y H = needs to be=20 restored in the flesh of man
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
John   10/25/2007=20 9:34=20 = PM
164=20 .  Jesus
all i know is=20 Jesus is personal. He relates to my = weakness, His=20 friends betrayed Him. Us, His children = turn our=20 backs on Him when He died and again today. = He is a=20 God, a Savior of Love.

I do not = live life=20 to recieve as much enjoyment out of it as=20 possible. But to learn to return Jesus'' = love as=20 much as possible. ha, gushy no? facts may = support=20 a belief, they are important, but they do = not move=20 me. Jesus'' arms wide open on the cross = embracing=20 a humanity that ignores Him does. =
 
Meghan   10/25/2007=20 7:21=20 = PM
165=20 .  Re Christians are = not Catholic=20
The notion=20 that Christians are not Catholic is like = saying=20 that Rabbi Kaduri was not a = Jew!!!

Christ=20 breathed on the Apostles and
told them = "Receive the Holy Spirit" and that if they = forgave=20 mens'' sins they would be forgiven and if = they=20 held them bound then the sins would be = held bound.=20 Who besides the Catholic and Orthodox = Christians=20 practice confession of sins to a priest?=20

Christ said [...unless you eat my = body and=20 drink my blood ...] and [...verily I say = my flesh=20 is real food and my blood is real = drink...] and=20 [...thou art Peter and upon this rock I = build my=20 Church...
what you bind on earth will = be bound=20 in heavan...what you loosen on Earth will = be=20 loosened in Heaven...]
Excavations at = the=20 Vatican
in the 20th century (under = Pius XII=20 who with other Catholics -according to = Pinchas=20 Lapide-helped save approximately 800,000 = Jews from=20 the Nazis)-uncovered the tomb of St. Peter = the=20 first pope who was succeeded by St. Linus = and St.=20 Cletus and on until Pope Benedict the XVI. =
How=20 i
 
Bill   10/25/2007=20 7:06=20 = PM
166=20 .  I agree
Take a more=20 philisophical approach. You don''''t = really need=20 to believe in anything. There is beauty in = nature=20 all around us and as far as we can see in = the=20 Universe, also if you want an afterlife, = after you=20 die your atoms will disperse and come back = together in different forms. People who = see=20 themselves as religious "leaders" or = "leaders" of=20 any kind will usually have an agenda to = enforce on=20 the masses.
Take a chill pill, stop = chasing=20 around looking for Messiahs, enjoy life.=20
 
Chris   10/25/2007=20 6:56=20 = PM
167=20 .  Naming of Messiah =
Perhaps this=20 is simplistic, but if Jesus of Nazareth is = the=20 Messiah then how can he be labeled a " = Christian"=20 Messiah, if his family lineage of all his = fathers=20 ,is Jewish and not Gentile? But consider, = in the=20 beginning there was no designation of = either Jew=20 or Gentile, as all were sons of God.=20
 
joseph   10/25/2007=20 6:07=20 = PM
168=20 .  Thus said Hashem, = your=20 Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
I = AM HASHEM,=20 YOUR GOD, WHO INSTRUCTS YOU...

FOR = YOUR=20 BENEFIT,

WHO GUIDES YOU IN THE = WAY
YOU=20 SHOULD FOLLOW.

IF YOU HAD HEARKENED = TO MY=20 COMMANDMENTS...

YOUR PEACE WOULD=20 FLOW
LIKE A RIVER...

AND YOUR=20 RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE THE WAVES OF THE=20 SEA...
Isaiah=20 = 48:17-19

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 4:29=20 = PM
169=20 .  Thus said Hashem, = King of=20 Israel and its Redeemer,
Hashem, Master=20 of Legions:

I AM THE FIRST AND I AM = THE=20 LAST,
AND ASIDE FROM ME...

THERE = IS NO=20 GOD.
Isaiah 44:6

THUS SAID = HASHEM, YOUR=20 REDEEMER

AND THE ONE WHO FORMED=20 YOU
FROM THE WOMB:

I AM HASHEM, = WHO HAS=20 MADE EVERYTHING,

WHO SPREAD OUT THE = HEAVENS=20 BY MYSELF,

AND FIRMED THE EARTH OF = MY OWN=20 ACCORD.

WHO SAYS OF "CYRUS", "HE IS = MY=20 SHEPHERD,

HE WILL FULFILL ALL MY = DESIRES,=20

"TO SAY OF JERUSALEM, "IT SHALL BE = BUILT,=20

"AND OF THE TEMPLE, "IT SHALL =
BE=20 ESTABLISHED."
Isaiah=20 = 44:24,28

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1043.htm

=
 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 4:20=20 = PM
170=20 .  They would remember = that God=20 was their Rock,
AND THE MOST=20 HIGH GOD THEIR REDEEMER.
Psalm=20 78:35

Fear not, O worm Jacob,* O = men
of=20 Israel,

*I will transform you from = the=20 lowly worm that you are now
into a = mighty=20 formidable force.

FOR I HELP YOU - = THE WORD=20
OF HASHEM

AND YOUR REDEEMER, = THE HOLY=20 ONE OF ISRAEL.
Isaiah = 41:14

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 4:09=20 = PM
171=20 .  The Hebrew verb in = this verse,=20 VE-NOSHA,
is = grammatically in the passive form. =

The VE=20 simply means "and".
NOSHA is the verb, = meaning=20

"ONE WHO HAS BEEN SAVED". =

If the=20 verb were active ("savior")
the Hebrew = would=20 say MOSHIA
and it does not.

The = two=20 Hebrew words Saddiq
and nosha, are = literally=20
right/righteous
(proved to be = right) and=20 saved.

(Not a Christian style = Savior,=20
but just a saved=20 = human...)

http://azamra.org/Bible/Zechariah%209-10.htm

The = Messiah can not "save you"
- just show = you the=20 way
to salvation - which is by=20 Torah.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 3:57=20 = PM
=
172=20 .  The true future = Redeemer be=20 not a man...
OF = FLESH AND=20 BLOOD, BUT GOD ALONE...

Moshiach is = not=20 called a savior
but rather, one who =
has=20 been saved (VE-NOSHA).

Rejoice = greatly, O=20 daughter of Zion, shout, O daughter of = Jerusalem,=20

behold, thy king cometh unto thee, = he is=20 triumphant,
and victorious, lowly,=20 =

=D7=94=D6=B4=D7=A0=D6=BC=D6=B5=D7=94 = =D7=9E=D6=B7=D7=9C=D6=B0=D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B5=D7=9A=D6=B0 = =D7=99=D6=B8=D7=91=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=90 =D7=9C=D6=B8=D7=9A=D6=B0, = =D7=A6=D6=B7=D7=93=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99=D7=A7=20 =

=D7=95=D6=B0=D7=A0=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=A9=D7=81=D6=B8=D7=A2 = =D7=94=D7=95=D6=BC=D7=90

and riding upon an=20 ass, even upon
a colt the foal of an = ass.=20
(the Lost Tribes)
Zechariah=20 = 9:9

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2309.htm

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 3:53=20 = PM
173=20 .  He said: I will love = You,=20 Hashem, my Strength.
HASHEM IS MY=20 ROCK, MY FORTRESS,
AND MY RESCUER, =

MY=20 GOD, MY ROCK IN WHOM I TAKE = SHELTER,

MY=20 SHIELD, AND THE HORN OF MY = SALVATION,

MY=20 STRONGHOLD.

WITH PRAISES I CALL = UNTO=20 HASHEM,

AND I AM SAVED FROM MINE=20 ENEMIES.
Psalm=20 = 18:2-4

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2618.htm

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 3:44=20 = PM
174=20 .  Psalm 18, for the = conductor by=20 the servant of Hashem,
BY = DAVID:=20

WHO SPOKE THE WORDS OF THIS=20 SONG*

*See: II Samuel Ch. = 22

TO=20 HASHEM ON THE DAY THAT HASHEM DELIVERED = HIM=20

FROM THE HAND ODF ALL HIS ENEMIES=20

AND FROM THE HAND OF = SAUL.
Psalm=20 18:1

David earned the right to sing = God''s=20 praises by perceiving

THE DIVINE = HAND IN=20 ALL THE TRIALS AND TRIUMPHS...

OF = HIS LONG=20 AND VARIED CAREER.

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 3:38=20 = PM
175=20 .  The Mystery of the = Flesh of=20 Messiah & Kaduri''s new understan
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/25/2007=20 3:30=20 = PM
176=20 .  If the Messiah dies = or is=20 killed, then he...
CANNOT BE THE=20 MESSIAH!

THAT SIMPLE. =
 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/25/2007=20 3:24=20 = PM
177=20 .  The Mystery of the = Flesh of=20 Messiah & Kaduri''s new understan
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/25/2007=20 2:26=20 = PM
178=20 .  The Mystery of the = Flesh of=20 Messiah & Kaduri''s new understan
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Karl   10/25/2007=20 1:54=20 = PM
179=20 .  http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm= =20
http://home.insightbb.com/~teachingyeshua/index.htm=20
 
Ken   10/25/2007=20 1:52=20 = PM
180=20 .  Chill
Take a more=20 philisophical approach. You don''t really = need to=20 believe in anything. There is beauty in = nature all=20 around us and as far as we can see in the=20 Universe, also if you want an afterlife, = after you=20 die your atoms will disperse and come back = together in different forms. People who = see=20 themselves as religious "leaders" or = "leaders" of=20 any kind will usually have an agenda to = enforce on=20 the masses.
Take a chill pill, stop = chasing=20 around looking for Messiahs. =
 
Ben   10/25/2007=20 1:26=20 = PM
181=20 .  Chill
Take a more=20 philisophical approach. You don''t really = need to=20 believe in anything. There is beauty in = nature all=20 around us and as far as we can see in the=20 Universe, also if you want an afterlife, = after you=20 die your atoms will disperse and come back = together in different forms. People who = see=20 themselves as religious "leaders" or = "leaders" of=20 any kind will usually have an agenda to = enforce on=20 the masses.
Take a chill pill, stop = chasing=20 around looking for Messiahs. =
 
Ben   10/25/2007=20 1:24=20 = PM
182=20 .  gnosis
For 2 physical=20 evidences of a second intelligence within=20 yourself-vivid dreams onset plus = repeatable=20 handtingles- search YouTube on LAY GNOSIS = 1 BEGIN=20 HERE site truebluehealerDOTcom Agnostic=20 testimonials including doctors from 4 = countries=20
 
steve   10/25/2007=20 1:14=20 = PM
183=20 .  Yeshua ha Torah = Mashiyach!=20
Sorry about=20 the typo, the website should=20 = be:

www.CalledOutServants.com

Eliyah=20
 
Eliyah = Ben=20 Yisrael   10/25/2007=20 7:48=20 = AM
184=20 .  Yeshua ha Torah = Mashiyach!!!=20
Yeshua is NOT=20 the same "je-zeus" as taught by 99% of so = called=20 mainstream "christian = assemblies"!!!

Yeshua=20 upheld Torah, along with the original=20 talmid/taught ones of HIS!

It is = time to=20 proclaim the GOOD NEWS of ha Torah = Mashiyach=20 Yeshua once again, for we have been lied = to for=20 too=20 = long!!!

www.CalledOutServantsl.com
www.Mashiyach.com

Eli= yah=20 Ben Yisrael
 
Eliyah = Ben=20 Yisrael   10/25/2007=20 7:34=20 = AM
185=20 .  In the line of David =
How Can the=20 Messiah be verified to be in the line of = David if=20 He is yet to be revealed? After the loss = of=20 genealogical records in the destruction of = the=20 Temple in 70 AD this is no longer = possible. Please=20 correct me if I am wrong but doesn''t this = mean=20 that He must have been identified prior to = that=20 time? Yeshua is the Messiah. =
 
Gary = B   10/25/2007=20 5:00=20 = AM
186=20 .  Rabbi Kaduri
Hear, O=20 Israel: The Lord is One =
 
Don = Lytle   10/25/2007=20 4:50=20 = AM
187=20 .  666 name of beast, = Jesus
In = hebrew alfa=20 numerics: Jesus - He Sus is samek waw = samek or 60=20 6 60=3D 666
 
mark   10/25/2007=20 4:41=20 = AM
188=20 .  Yahsha is Salvation =
Yahsha! is=20 what the Messiah was called by his = followers.=20 Proof at Remnantofyhwh.com =
 
michael   10/25/2007=20 4:37=20 = AM
189=20 .  TRUTH and Religion = are not the=20 same
I = found=20 Kaduri''s written statement fascinating, = yet the=20 common problem is religion, which dirty''s = what is=20 clear.
Jesus was not a Christian and = Judaism=20 was begun only after Solomon began temple = worship.=20 (they had the tabernacle and His Law at = the=20 beginning.)
Paul speaks of the true Jew = one who=20 is circumcised spiritually inwardly from = the=20 world, not outward as is practised in=20 religion.
Jesus was the TRUTH, not a = religion.=20 The Apostles testified to the TRUTH, not a = pagan=20 religion.
In this revelation by a loved = leader=20 in Israel, I pray it is His will that = those=20 trapped in religion (religion is of Satan) = will=20 come to Him at the cross and crossover to = the=20 spiritual Kingdom which is indeed = coming.
The=20 testimony of Jesus IS the Spirit of = prophecy. Rev=20 22
"Come out of her my children = (religion),=20 lest you share in her sins and partake of = her=20 plagues." Rev 18:4

 
Stephen, = South=20 Carolina   10/25/2007=20 3:27=20 = AM
190=20 .  Response to #43
All Jews are=20 not Sons of God.

A True Jew in the = eyes of=20 YHWH is Spiritual, not of the = flesh.

A Jew=20 is one by Heart and is the Lawgiver of=20 YHWH.

As one speaks their words = from their=20 hearts. Matthew 12 v 34 & Proverbs 4 v = 23=20 & Deuteronomy 32 v 46

Only one = who=20 keeps and teaches the Law/Torah of YHWH is = considered a Jew in the eyes of = YHWH.

The=20 flesh profits nothing, and a fleshly Jew = who does=20 not keep and teach the Law/Torah will go = to their=20 destruction as all others.

As their = Father=20 is the Father of lies, Satan, the devil, = the=20 wicked one.

You are sadly mistaken = to say=20 All Jews are Sons of God.

This is = the true=20 reason the Messiah said, "Salvation is of = the=20 Jews." John 4 v 22

Because they are = the=20 Lawgivers. Psalm 60 v 8

And this is = the=20 only way one can keep Torah, by teaching = it and=20 preaching it to others. Joshua 1 v 8 & = Deuteronomy 30 v 14

So please go = and read=20 Deuteronomy 10 v 16 and then realize the = fallacy=20 of your statement.
 
BW   10/25/2007=20 3:20=20 = AM
191=20 .  Arcturus oul
If = anyone=20 knows where Arcturusoul got the quote he = posted in=20 Comments 4, 5, 6, 7 please email me at = gringoold=20 (at) yahoo.com

Thanks =
 
Gary   10/24/2007=20 11:44=20 = PM
192=20 .  Rabbi Kaduri''s = Yeshua note=20
We = Christians=20 have known this all along, I hope that = this=20 revelation means that Jewish folk will be = more=20 opened minded about the matter. see more=20 here
Ancient Hebrew Scriptures prove = Jesus=20 Messiah.
ourchurch.com/membera/ahs/=20
 
Grayeagle   10/24/2007=20 11:11=20 = PM
193=20 .  Messianic Jews
Jews do not=20 need to "convert" to Christianity. They = can=20 recognize and *accept* Yeshua as the = promised=20 Messiah of Israel. They can continue to = worship in=20 the same way and with the same calendar = they now=20 use. As for current Christians, they must = deliver=20 themselves from the trash and lies brought = to=20 their religion by the Roman Empire. They = must=20 accept that it is possible to accept = Yeshua and=20 still follow the Jewish rite. Messianic = Jews must=20 bring correction and restoration to the = Christian=20 field because they know the Language and = the true=20 meaning of the words and deeds of=20 Yeshua.
Messianic Jews are the most = important=20 thing that happened in the religious field = in our=20 time.
 
Miguel = Medalha   10/24/2007=20 9:59=20 = PM
194=20 .  Messianic Jews
Jews do not=20 need to "convert" to Christianity. They = can=20 recognize and *accept* Yeshua as the = promised=20 Messiah of Israel. They can continue to = worship in=20 the same way and with the same calendar = they now=20 use. As for current Christians, they must = deliver=20 themselves from the trash and lies brought = to=20 their religion by the Roman Empire. They = must=20 accept that it is possible to accept = Yeshua and=20 still follow the Jewish rite. Messianic = Jews must=20 bring correction and restoration to the = Christian=20 field because they know the Language and = the true=20 meaning of the words and deeds of=20 Yeshua.
Messianic Jews are the most = important=20 thing that happened in the religious field = in our=20 time.
 
Miguel = Medalha   10/24/2007=20 9:58=20 = PM
195=20 .  The sons of god III = Return of=20 the king
en = as they=20 took in their surroundings, and thus spake = in an=20 omnipresent voice. When darkness descended = he=20 whispereth unseen in the womans ear and = she did=20 picketh some fruit from
the tree, with = this=20 Gabriel did smileth unto himself and = leaveth the=20 garden and ascendeth his chariot and He = did turn=20 and looketh upon the earth "see you in = 12,000=20 years" he said, and aroseth He into = heaven.=20
 
Arcturusoul   10/24/2007=20 9:41=20 = PM
196=20 .  The sons of god part = deux
on = of=20 seraphim, bathed in a shimmering light who = hadeth=20 the blackest of eyes from
a great = battle with=20 lucifer and his minions. and Gabriel did = sayeth=20 onto the men of the earth "jesus awaits = thee=20 aboard my wheel, bestow upon me thy hearts = thy=20 souls and thy cattles tongues, anus''s and = sexual=20 organs and I shall
lead thee through = the gates=20 of heaven to meet thy maker. Unquestioning = for=20 seven days and seven nights The sons of = god did as=20 the angel requested and euphorically = acsended the=20 stairway to the great wheel in vast = swathes,=20 escorted by the angel gabriel and his = seraphim=20 army, from which they were henceforth = carried=20 aloft from the evils of the earth, into = heaven to=20 behold their salvation.

And = henceforth=20 those that remaineth on the earth were = destroyed=20 in a great deluge that wipeth clean the = earth,=20 Later the angel Gabriel returneth and the = earth=20 was replenished. He layeth on the ground a = woman=20 and a man who
sleepeth soundly, he hid = behind a=20 tree and did watch as they awoketh, He = watcheth=20 hidd
 
Arcturusoul   10/24/2007=20 9:39=20 = PM
197=20 .  The sons of god part = deux
on = of=20 seraphim, bathed in a shimmering light who = hadeth=20 the blackest of eyes from
a great = battle with=20 lucifer and his minions. and Gabriel did = sayeth=20 onto the men of the earth "jesus awaits = thee=20 aboard my wheel, bestow upon me thy hearts = thy=20 souls and thy cattles tongues, anus''s and = sexual=20 organs and I shall
lead thee through = the gates=20 of heaven to meet thy maker. Unquestioning = for=20 seven days and seven nights The sons of = god did as=20 the angel requested and euphorically = acsended the=20 stairway to the great wheel in vast = swathes,=20 escorted by the angel gabriel and his = seraphim=20 army, from which they were henceforth = carried=20 aloft from the evils of the earth, into = heaven to=20 behold their salvation.

And = henceforth=20 those that remaineth on the earth were = destroyed=20 in a great deluge that wipeth clean the = earth,=20 Later the angel Gabriel returneth and the = earth=20 was replenished. He layeth on the ground a = woman=20 and a man who
sleepeth soundly, he hid = behind a=20 tree and did watch as they awoketh, He = watcheth=20 hidd
 
Arcturusoul   10/24/2007=20 9:33=20 = PM
198=20 .  The sons of god
Thus it was,=20 upon the highest tier of heaven that I = stood=20 before god and he calleth me by my name = "oh great=20 one" and he layeth his sword of truth = before me,=20 and sayeth he onto me "He who doth wield = this=20 sword shall behold the heavens
and upon = this I=20 did kneel and picketh up the blade of = light and=20 did wield it swiftly and by the grace of = god=20 himself did
stick it true and = smiteingly up his=20 anus, and behold god did sayeth unto me = "thou are=20 truly the son of satan" and did swiftly = banish me=20 below into a fiery abyss, where
upon my = arrival=20 I beheld the great lord lucifer, and he = did sayeth=20 unto me "behold oh great one, thou are = truly the=20 son of satan"
from which i bestowed = unto him a=20 great urination of endless surging power = that did=20 quencheth all the fires of hell and behold =
satan saideth unto me "what treachery = is this,=20 begone from this place at once, for thou = are truly=20 the son of god"




And = behold a=20 great wheel descended from heaven from = whence came=20 the angel Gabriel and a processi =
 
Arcturusoul   10/24/2007=20 9:30=20 = PM
199=20 .  The Messiah Note =
I = am at a loss=20 at to how our brothers and sisters of the = Jewish=20 tradition can examine Scripture, the need = for a=20 blood sacrifice for the remission of sins, = the=20 writings of Isaiah 53 and the many = prophecies and=20 in 2007 deny the Messiah.
Christians = consider=20 ourselves kin to our Jewish family, but it = is time=20 for the nation Israel to take its eyes off = the=20 nation and turn its eyes to = Messiah.

Jeff=20 Russell,
USA
 
Jeff =   10/24/2007=20 8:03=20 = PM
200=20 .  Zeitgeist = Documentary
www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Great=20 documentary discussing religions and the = ages.=20 Highly recommended. Plus you can watch it = for free=20 at the above link!
 
blackhat   10/24/2007=20 6:59=20 = PM
201=20 .  Dinosaurs and = stuff... (2)=20
Dinosaurs are=20 [probably] genetic perversions by Satan = and the=20 watchers of the pre-flood Animal world = (see Enoch=20 and Genesis 6). These were not *clean* and = thus=20 not included in Noah''s Ark. All can be = found to=20 be supportive of the Bible with careful = study and=20 prayer, but in the end, never mind if Im = right or=20 wrong, just trust God! On the topic at = hand=20 though, please be careful. The Bible = nowhere says=20 that Mesisah will come without knowing = that he is=20 the Messiah (as portrayed above). = Revelation=20 portrays Jesus coming with all power and = glory to=20 confront and destroy the evil beast = government=20 system and all who follow after it. There = will be=20 no intermediate step (that was finished at = the=20 cross). Be careful that this article does = induce=20 you to look for a fake. Read your Bibles!=20
 
aa   10/24/2007=20 5:51=20 = PM
202=20 .  Christian and = Catholics
"satan''=20 hasn''t hijacked anything except your = ability to=20 spell.
 
resonse = to post #2=20   10/24/2007=20 4:15=20 = PM
203=20 .  Response to comment = #10
If = Moses was a=20 true prophet of God then what are we to = make of=20 his final prophecy before his death, when, = speaking to the Hebrews, he said : "For I = know=20 that after my death ye will utterly = corrupt=20 [yourselves,] and turn aside from the way = which I=20 have commanded you and evil will befall = you in the=20 latter days because ye will do evil in the = sight=20 of the LORD, to provoke him to anger = through the=20 work of your hands." [Deuteronomy=20 31:29]

When were/are/will be these = "latter=20 days"? And is "utterly" (which, of course, = means=20 irredeemably) a faithful translation of = the=20 Hebrew?


 
Curious   10/24/2007=20 2:52=20 = PM
204=20 .  Christians are not = Catholic=20
I = hope the=20 Jewish people do not think the Catholics = or the=20 Protestants represent Jesus in any way. = Organized=20 Christian religion has been hijacked by = Saten.=20
 
Tom   10/24/2007=20 12:47=20 = PM
205=20 .  Unmitigated drivel =
Unmitigated=20 drivel, the entire topic and delusion=20
 
therzal   10/24/2007=20 11:48=20 = AM
206=20 .  At last salvation = for Judaism=20
As = a people=20 whose original denial of the christ has = led to two=20 millenia of persecution.One would think = that the=20 written word from the holiest of holy = would reveal=20 the path.

The rabbi has chosen to = reveal=20 the messiah in this way so ones conflict = is=20 within....exactly the same manner in which = his own=20 conflicts were enlightened........if the = jewish=20 people again ignore and deny the = christ..they are=20 truelly the lost children.

One=20 god..

Only through him shall one = enter the=20 kingdom of heaven.
 
phil   10/24/2007=20 8:58=20 = AM
207=20 .  Chief Rabbi of Rome = converted=20 too
The Chief=20 Rabbi of Rome, Israel Zolli, and his wife=20 converted to Catholic Christianity in 1945 = after=20 he was experiencing visions of the = Messiah, too.=20 It would not be surprising if a Rabbi in = Jerusalem=20 had similar experiences 60 years later. = Torah is=20 fufilled in love. God''s Wisdom was always = with=20 him, coming from him as light comes from = fire=20 eternal. Why is it so hard to accept that = God''s=20 oneness is not violated by a mystery that = Wisdom=20 is also one in being with the Father and a = reflection of Him that this Wisdom = received flesh=20 at the consent of a virgin? That Jesus is = the last=20 Adam who reunites all mankind back to the = Father?=20 Jesus causes billions of gentiles to sing = the=20 Psalms of David, but he is ignored by = those who=20 pray the psalms is odd. Salvation came = from the=20 Jews and they seem not to be proud of a = Jew who=20 gets so many gentiles to sing David''s = Psalms.=20
 
Matthew   10/24/2007=20 6:31=20 = AM
208=20 .  Chief Rabbi of Rome = converted=20 too
The Chief=20 Rabbi of Rome, Israel Zolli, and his wife=20 converted to Catholic Christianity in 1945 = after=20 he was experiencing visions of the = Messiah, too.=20 It would not be surprising if a Rabbi in = Jerusalem=20 had similar experiences 60 years later. = Torah is=20 fufilled in love. God''s Wisdom was always = with=20 him, coming from him as light comes from = fire=20 eternal. Why is it so hard to accept that = God''s=20 oneness is not violated by a mystery that = Wisdom=20 is also one in being with the Father and a = reflection of Him that this Wisdom = received flesh=20 at the consent of a virgin? That Jesus is = the last=20 Adam who reunites all mankind back to the = Father?=20 Jesus causes billions of gentiles to sing = the=20 Psalms of David, but he is ignored by = those who=20 pray the psalms is odd. Salvation came = from the=20 Jews and they seem not to be proud of a = Jew who=20 gets so many gentiles to sing David''s = Psalms.=20
 
Matthew   10/24/2007=20 6:28=20 = AM
209=20 .  Dinosaurs and = stuff...
If = we are to=20 believe in the Torah and the Bible, then = the Earth=20 is only 10-12,000 years old after God made = it in 6=20 days and chilled out on the = 7th.

Er...Where=20 do all of the dinosaurs and Neanderthal = man fit=20 into all of this?

Something is = wrong with=20 this religion picture! =
 
Father=20 Christmas   10/24/2007=20 4:59=20 = AM
210=20 .  Hashem shall reign = forever,=20 your God, O Zion,
from=20 generation, to = generation.
Halleluyah!
Psalm=20 146:10

HASHEM SHALL REIGN FOR ALL=20 ETERNITY!
Exodus = 15:18


 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/18/2007=20 2:53=20 = AM
211=20 .  Then I will restore = your=20 judges as at first, and your...
counselors as=20 at the beginning,
after that you will = be=20 called

"CITY OF=20 RIGHTEOUSNESS,"
"FAITHFUL = CITY."

ZION=20 WILL BE REDEEMED = THROUGH
JUSTICE,

AND=20 THOSE WHO RETURN TO HER
THROUGH=20 RIGHTEOUSNESS...
Isaiah=20 1:26-27

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/18/2007=20 2:48=20 = AM
212=20 .  And He chose David, = His=20 servant, and took him...
from the sheep=20 corrals,*

*See 1 Samuel 16:11, The = true=20 Jewish leader displays
the character = and=20 qualities of
a shepherd...

WHO = IS=20 DEVOTED TO THE WELFARE OF HIS = FLOCK.

From=20 behind the nursing ewes
He brought = him,
to=20 tend to Jacob, His nation,

and to = Israel,=20 His inhertiance.

And he tended them = according to the integrity of his=20 heart...

and by the skill of his = hands=20
he led them...
Psalm=20 78:70-72

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/18/2007=20 2:37=20 = AM
213=20 .  And you, Migdal-eder = (Tower of=20 the Flock), Ophel*...
of = the=20 daughter of Zion,

THEY WILL COME = BACK TO=20 YOU,

*The Ophel was a district in=20 Jerusalem. Neh 3:26,
See: Ezra 2:43, = Joshua Ch.=20 9,

AND THE ORIGINAL KINGDOM =
WILL=20 ARRIVE...

THE KINGDOM OF THE = DAUGHTER OF=20 JERUSALEM.
Micah = 4:8

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/18/2007=20 2:27=20 = AM
214=20 .  On that day, the = word of=20 Hashem, I will assemble...
THE LAME ONE=20 AND GATHER IN THE ONE DRIVEN = AWAY...

AND=20 WHOMEVER I HAVE HARMED.

AND I WILL = MAKE THE=20 LAME ONE
INTO A REMNANT...

AND = THE ONE=20 FORCED TO WANDER
INTO A MIGHTY=20 NATION...

AND HASHEM WILL REIGN = OVER THEM=20 AT MOUNT ZION,

FROM NOW AND=20 FOREVER.
Micah = 4:6-7

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/18/2007=20 2:11=20 = AM
215=20 .  R''Kaduri was also = quoted as=20 saying that...
THE IMMINENT=20 ARRIVAL OF THE MOSHIACH

WILL "SAVE=20 JERUSALEM FROM ISLAM
AND=20 CHRISTIANITY,

THAT WISH TO TAKE=20 JERUSALEM
FROM THE JEWISH = NATION."

In=20 fact, many Christian discussion boards say = Kaduri''s description Of the Messiah no = matter=20 what his name
doesn''t fit the biblical = account=20

of a returned Jesus of Nazareth,=20

WHO, THEY BELIEVE, WILL RULE AND = REIGN ON=20 EARTH

FROM JERUSALEM FOR 1,000=20 = YEARS.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=3D= 55765

 
Moshiach: Rebekah -=20 Norway   10/17/2007=20 1:26=20 = AM
216=20 .  prove that the law = is valid=20
Today''s=20 typical church christian will be suprised = when the=20 great Rebbi''s statement comes true = "......and=20 prove that His Word and Law are valid". I = believe=20 as the Rebbi does, that Yeshua is the long = promised and awaited for Messiah and = follow the=20